Mic: it would be better if you start a new page/thread for each page / species you want feedback on or want to update... could you please do that for this Brahmi page...
there is some correction to be done, but I wont do it on this who is Mic page... too confusing by far in the long run a month from now I or most of us would not remember which page it was buried in to... so it behooves us to start a new thread for each new topic or submission... thanks and I hope you will appreciate this point Usha di ==== On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:12 AM, OZmic <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Pankaj ji, > > You took me by surprise there. I have had to update this page quickly. > Here are the results. Please send plenty of feedback. I'll post a full set > of ref. at some point. The main basic one (without any scripted names) > usually with all the names in various forms is *ENVIS Frlht > Environmental Information System* [3]*.* > ASSAMESE : ব্ৰাহ্মী Brahmi [3] [30] [31]. > BENGALI : ব্রাদ্রমী শাক Brādramī śāka [MHP], ব্রাহ্মী শাক Brāhmi śāk > [MHP], Brahmi-sak [3] [31] , Barmi shak [3]. > > ENGLISH : Bacopa, Brain plant, Coastal waterhyssop, Coastal water hyssop [ > 1], Herb of grace (HoC), Indian-pennywort [1] [31] (HoC), Moneywort, > Monnier's bacopa, Thyme-leaved graticula (Pankaj Oudhia), , Water hyssop (Dr. > Duke) (HoC), White hyssop. > > GUJARATI : Jalanevari, Jalbrahmi. > HINDI : Adha birni* *(Rehm), Baam [3], Barami, ब्राह्मी Brahmi [MHP] [31] > [VS], ब्राह्मी जड़ी बूटी Brāhmī jaṛī būṭī [29H] , Brambhiv, Jalbuti [3], > Jalnim [3], Nirbraini [3], Mandukaparni (HoC), Pan brahmi [3], Safed > chamni* *(Rehm)*. > * > > KANNADA : Brahmi [3] [31], Jalabrahmi [3] [31], Nirbrahmi , Neer brahmi > [3]. > > MALAYALAM : Barna, ബ്രഹ്മി [28] [29M], Brahmi [27] [MHP], Nirbrahmi [3]. > > MARATHI : Ghola, Brahmi. > NEPALESE : मेधा गिरी Medha giree. > > SANSKRIT : Adha-birni* *(Rehm), Aindri [3], Brahmi [3], Gundala [1] [3] > [31], Indravalli [1] [3] [31], Jalasaya [1] [3] [31], Jala brahmi, > Nira-brahmi. > > TAMIL : Neer brahmi, நீர்ப்pராமி Nirbrahmi [31], நீர்ப்பிரமி [MHP] Niirpirami > [MHP], Nirabradhmi, Nirpirami, பிரமி [MHP] Pirami [MHP]. > > TELUGU : Neeri sambraani mokka [3] [31], Sambraanichettu [3], Sambrani > chettu [3] [31], Sambrareni aaku [3], Saraswathi aku. > URDU : Brahmisak (Pakistan). > > Names above are mostly reliable when in original script. Names with > reference numbers are also reliable, the more ref. the better. *Names > which should have a scripted match* but don't, and have no ref. number *are > only there to encourage further searches for reliable scripted names.* > > "Brahmi" is applied to *Centella > asiatica<http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Centella.html#asiatica> > * (L.) > Urb.<http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Centella.html#asiatica>in > Northern and Western India but defines > *Bacopa monnieri *(L.) Pennell in Kerala (Southern India). (ref. McGuffin > et al. 2000) > > "Mandukaparni" applies to *Bacopa monnieri *(L.) Pennell in Northern and > Western India but defines *Centella > asiatica<http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Centella.html#asiatica> > * (L.) > Urb.<http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Centella.html#asiatica>in > Kerala. (ref. McGuffin et al. 2000). > > > * *It is stated on the Maharishi Ayurveda site : "Two main herbs > (Herpestis Monniera, Bacopa Monnieri ) go by the name of Brahmi in the > ancient Ayurvedic texts. Some experts from The Council of Maharishi > Ayurveda Physicians feel that Herpestis Monniera is more authentic and is > preferable for mental benefits except where urinary flow, purification, and > immunomodulation is desired by the physician. > The other herb that commonly goes by this name is more popularly known in > the U.S. as Gotu-Kola, or Centella asiatica, called Mandukaparni. " > > Unfortunately modern scientists have lumped both plants (Herpestis > monniera and Bacopa monnieri), if ever there were 2 distinctive plants > involved, in the same bag - i.e. they are considered as synonyms. > > > On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:03:42 PM UTC+10, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: >> >> Nice to know about you Mr. Procher. I had a glance at your MMPND site >> just to see one plant: Bacopa monnieri (L.) Pennel. >> One of the Hindi names, Mandukparni, will mean, "manduk" - frog, "parni" >> - leaf pertaining to frog like jumping leaves. And this name implies to >> Centella asiatica (L.) Urban [family: Mackinlayaceae]. >> Hope to learn more from you in the coming times. >> Best regards >> Pankaj >> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> --------------------------- >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------------------- >> >> >> On Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:53:36 UTC+8, OZmic wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> Who am I ? this question seems to bother a number of people. I have >>> explained this to a few but they have been very discreet about it. I thank >>> them for their discretion. >>> Well! for the benefit of everyone my name is Michel, neither Michelle >>> (fem.) nor Michael. Formally I am Michel H. Porcher (Mr.). I have many >>> online aliases. >>> I chose "OZmic" for this forum, meaning Mic from Australia. So I keep >>> asking people to call me Mic. >>> However you are welcome to call me anything you like. I love your >>> expression "ji" so if you can fit this in I'll be delighted but "Michel ji" >>> may not sound good to you, I don't know. >>> On the other hand being non-conformist I do not like much being >>> addressed as Mr. or Sir, although I am aware that this is normal and polite >>> in various countries and languages. I do not like my surname either which >>> means "pig-keeper" in French. In Australia we tend to call people by their >>> first name, often a derived nickname. For example Barry becomes Bazza, >>> Daryl becomes Dazza, William becomes Bill, Danny becomes Dan etc. This is a >>> device to bring about a superficial egalitarian society. In depth however >>> our society is like any other with its social structures or classes. I >>> always find these names amusing. >>> I am honored when one calls me Dr. but I do not have a PhD. I have >>> studied my subjects hard in an autodidactic fashion in order to develop my >>> chosen field of multilingual nomenclature. Studying this at University >>> would have meant a lot of time and efforts wasted learning a lot of things >>> beneficial to my general culture but irrelevant to my chosen activity. >>> Thanks for your understanding. >>> Mic >> >> >> On Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:53:36 UTC+8, OZmic wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> Who am I ? this question seems to bother a number of people. I have >>> explained this to a few but they have been very discreet about it. I thank >>> them for their discretion. >>> Well! for the benefit of everyone my name is Michel, neither Michelle >>> (fem.) nor Michael. Formally I am Michel H. Porcher (Mr.). I have many >>> online aliases. >>> I chose "OZmic" for this forum, meaning Mic from Australia. So I keep >>> asking people to call me Mic. >>> However you are welcome to call me anything you like. I love your >>> expression "ji" so if you can fit this in I'll be delighted but "Michel ji" >>> may not sound good to you, I don't know. >>> On the other hand being non-conformist I do not like much being >>> addressed as Mr. or Sir, although I am aware that this is normal and polite >>> in various countries and languages. I do not like my surname either which >>> means "pig-keeper" in French. In Australia we tend to call people by their >>> first name, often a derived nickname. For example Barry becomes Bazza, >>> Daryl becomes Dazza, William becomes Bill, Danny becomes Dan etc. This is a >>> device to bring about a superficial egalitarian society. In depth however >>> our society is like any other with its social structures or classes. I >>> always find these names amusing. >>> I am honored when one calls me Dr. but I do not have a PhD. I have >>> studied my subjects hard in an autodidactic fashion in order to develop my >>> chosen field of multilingual nomenclature. Studying this at University >>> would have meant a lot of time and efforts wasted learning a lot of things >>> beneficial to my general culture but irrelevant to my chosen activity. >>> Thanks for your understanding. >>> Mic >> >> -- Usha di ===========
