Dr. Raju: thank you... yes all phytolacas have to be bolied atleast in thre...count three...changes of water to render them less toxic and edible... american tribes used to do that and the pioneers who learned from them.. but with advent of farming of other less toxic grrens for spinach, collard greens, kohlrabi greens, broccoli, broccoli rabe etc etc these old greens that are toxic need not be used for food anymore... Interesting to know the history though...
Usha -- On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Datla CS Raju <[email protected]> wrote: > Flowers of the Himalaya by Pollunin & Stainton p341clearly mentions > Phytolacca acinosa Roxb.as an excellent pot herb if leaves are well > boiled..A photograph is also given.The plant was procured from sunday > market at Gangtok and much relished by myself > and Dr Srvastava,now a Jt Director in BSI.He prepared a paper for Jl Hill > Research by Sikkim Society in 1990.As I left Sikkim for CAL I have nt > received reprintsts,I talked about less-known edible plants -Madurai > Science Congress Botany section unde Prof Purakayastha. .. > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:43 PM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dr Raju... could tell us about this paper, or do you have a copy? >> and where did this Dr Srivastava get it from the market... what town, >> provine and what years... >> >> Thanks >> Usha di >> == >> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No Dr Raju its not >>> we are discussing almost fatal toxicity... >>> sorry if our discussion was not explicit >>> Usha di >>> === >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Datla CS Raju <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Phytolacca acinosa is much relished pot herb that Dr Srivastava my >>>> associate and authorof a paper on this palnt used to get from sunday market >>>> .It will be interesting if P.americanaa is also edible. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ritesh... >>>>> >>>>> I have never heard Veratrum sp called Indian Pokeweed... its a lily >>>>> family member called Hellebore... native americans/ tribals used to treat >>>>> high blood pressure with it.. but the therapy is apparently fraught with >>>>> dangers and given up... (( so called Indian pokeweed is also a north >>>>> american plant, a lily family, very different, very toxic...why is it >>>>> called pokeweed I am not sure, ) ...livestock is known to die from >>>>> foraging on the green new shoots of this lily plant... its very toxic... >>>>> This lily grows in water logged soil, mostly in American northwest states >>>>> .. >>>>> >>>>> WHERE AS Phytolaca grows often in well tended farmland and edges of >>>>> gardens or rich yet disturbed lands, One variety is known to grow in >>>>> marshes ... all over the country..... they have these very attractive >>>>> blue-black small berries that children sometimes eat by mistake and get >>>>> sick.... burns the mouth so luckily the children stop eating them... but >>>>> in large doses is fatal... >>>>> >>>>> a lectin was discovered called the Pokeweed mitogen.... rest is >>>>> history... >>>>> >>>>> Usha di >>>>> ==== >>>>> >>>>> ps the green fruits in your pictures are unripe, when they ripen they >>>>> turn blue black... look very juicy... >>>>> == >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Ushadi for information! Thanks Balkar Sir and Prashant Sir for >>>>>> liking the photographs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Learnt from the net about Indian Pokeweed (Veratrum viride >>>>>> Aiton)...though never seen in the field. Requesting Ushadi to kindly >>>>>> enlighten if Indian and American Pokeweeds resemble somehow in their >>>>>> bio-activity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Ritesh. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > -- Usha di ===========
