Surajit Yes looking for malvaceae and abroma... brings up many pages ... recognizable among them in the first twenty listings often is my writeup from september... ...so that's no help...
but to day my irritation with this AMBROMA and ABROIMA was piqued enough... I did some searches... like history of Abroma august and many in this vein... BUT then googled for ...."who named abroma /ambroma augusta originally? 1784 or 1782 comes up but no more HELP and many searches in this vein regarding who named it, who changed the name etc... NOTHING USEFUL.... 2nd set of googling for ...."who named abroma /ambroma augusta originally? " and hit pay dirt, got the following : I QUOTE : " *Abroma Notes* *Malvaceae Info (Home) <http://www.malvaceae.info/index.html> Index to Genera <http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/index.html>* * Synonymy of Abroma<http://www.malvaceae.info/Synonymy/Synonymy.php?file=Abroma> * *Abroma angustum (L.) Murray* *Introduction* *Abroma (the persistent orthographic variant Ambroma is due to Linnaeus fils ) is a genus belong to tribe Byttnerieae and subfamily Byttnerioideae of the angiosperm family Malvaceae sensu lato.The genus was introduced in 1776 by Jacquin, based on Linnaeus's Theobroma augusta, but renaming the species as Abroma fastuosa. The correct combination was subsequently made by Linnaeus fils and Murray. Abroma, being based on the Greek βρομα (broma), is neuter, and while the feminine gender has generally been used for epithets in this genus, they should be corrected to neuter.* *Abroma is generally considered a monotypic genus, with the sole species being Abroma augustum. However there are conflicting chromosome number reports (2n = 16, 20, 22, 24) for this species, so the possibility that it represents a species complex remains open.* *Abroma angustum (L.) L.f. **[image: Description: Chinese] ang tian lian* *Synonyms of Abroma augustum include Abroma alata Blanco, Abroma angulataLam., Abroma angulosa Poir., Abroma communis Blanco, Abroma elongata Lam., Abroma fastuosa Gaertn., Abroma fastuosa Jacq., Abroma fastuosa Vent., Abroma molleDC., Abroma mollis DC., Abroma obliquum C.Presl, Abroma wheleri Retz. and Theobroma augusta L..* *Malvaceae Info (Home) <http://www.malvaceae.info/index.html> Index to Genera <http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/index.html>* * Synonymy of Abroma<http://www.malvaceae.info/Synonymy/Synonymy.php?file=Abroma> * *(c) 2011 Stewart R. Hinsley"* *http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/Abroma/Abroma.php* *when I searched for ambroma versus abroma...* " end quote AND *WHAT IS ORTHOGRAPHIC VARIANT YOU ASK*? as per an article in Taxon Homonyms, Paranyms and Orthographic Variants Hj. Eichler Taxon Vol. 12, No. 1 (Jan., 1963), pp. 15-20 *orthographic variant is a DIFFERENT SPELLING FORM OF A VALIDLY PUBLISHED NAME....* READ IT AT http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1216675?uid=3738256&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21101126705337 * SINCE IT WAS LINNAEUS"S SON the fils means son... (or a father whichever ) I take it was paerhaps the son... but could also be the father since he was alive during the first description of this plant.*.. *SO THIS IS JUST A SPELLING MISTAKE BY THE FATHER_SON DUO.... * I AM DEFINITELY DONE WITH THIS >>>>> THIS IS BEGINNING TO BORE ME>>>> I"LL DO ONE THING FOR SAKE OF COMPLETION (esp since my first submission keeps coming up on googling) I'll copy paste what I wrote here to that thread and also put a link to this SURJAIT's thread there ... SAYONARA TO ABROMA....AMBROMA .... *USHA DI * ps this Surajit thread 's link is https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!search/abroma$20surajit/indiantreepix/JHioQNsI0ws/t34JcxnzPUAJ *THE END * On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:52 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote: > Usha Di, > > I think Malvaceae week was observed in September 2011, and i was not a > member at that time. Moreover, it is not possible for me to go through all > posts in the group, current or past. > > Regards, > > surajit > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Gurcharanji and Satish Phadke discussed it if I remmeber it >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:13 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Usha Di for the suggestion. But a search of "malvaceae week" >>> gives 643 results and browsing all is not feasible. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:44 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Surajit and all: >>>> >>>> During the Malvaceae week the classification was discussed... >>>> if you wish you can go back and see the discussion... >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> === >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning dear Surajit Ji, >>>>> >>>>> Please find attached herewith a PDF on APG III. You can go through >>>>> page 96 where you'll find all the families treated under Malvaceae >>>>> (including Sterculiaceae). >>>>> >>>>> Hope this satisfies your query. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Ritesh. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good morning Ritesh Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much for the info. But it gives birth to more >>>>>> questions- >>>>>> >>>>>> - What is APG III ? >>>>>> - Why should Sterculiaceae go to Malvaceae? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dug up a little bit and found this- >>>>>> >>>>>> APG <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APG_system> > APG >>>>>> III<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APG_III_system>> >>>>>> Malvales <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvales> > >>>>>> Malvaceae<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvaceae>> >>>>>> Byttnerioideae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byttnerioideae> (not >>>>>> Sterculioideae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterculioideae> !!!) > >>>>>> Abroma >>>>>> >>>>>> Oops! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing a detailed illustration of A. augusta. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the new system of classification (APG III) Sterculiaceae is >>>>>>> treated under Malvaceae. So you can keep this plant in your Malvaceae >>>>>>> folder. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Happy posting...and thanks again! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Ritesh. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ritesh Kumar Choudhary, Ph.D. >>>>> International Biological Material Research Center >>>>> Korea Research Institute of Bioscience & Biotechnology >>>>> 125, Gwahak-ro, Yuseong-gu >>>>> Daejeon >>>>> South Korea-305-806 >>>>> >>>>> +82-42-879-8342 (O) >>>>> http://www.kribb.re.kr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it >>>>> would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a >>>>> Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > -- Usha di ===========
