Thanks, Interesting links Usha di === On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote:
> Usha Di, > > Abroma is very irritating, as can be seen/read in - > http://www.plantoftheweek.org/week262.shtml. > > Thanks for the "orthographic variant", it may explain > *Boerhaavia<http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/CropFactSheets/punanrnava.html> > * and *Boerhavia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerhavia_diffusa>*. > > Thanks for 'Broma', 'Abroma', 'Ambroma', 'Theobroma', found some info at - > http://wordinfo.info/unit/2421/ip:21 > > Thanks for 'Linnaeus fils', searched and found - > http://www2.nrm.se/fbo/hist/linnefil/linfil.html.en > > Thank you very much for the entire content at - > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/MlzLNRNmbGU. > Please, consider copying the same at - > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/RwVtfMStccs > too. > > > Regards, > > surajit > > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Surajit >> >> Yes looking for malvaceae and abroma... brings up many pages ... >> recognizable among them in the first twenty listings often is my writeup >> from september... ...so that's no help... >> >> but to day my irritation with this AMBROMA and ABROIMA was piqued >> enough... >> I did some searches... like history of Abroma august and many in this >> vein... >> >> BUT then googled for ...."who named abroma /ambroma augusta originally? >> 1784 or 1782 comes up but no more HELP >> and many searches in this vein regarding who named it, who changed the >> name etc... >> NOTHING USEFUL.... >> >> 2nd set of googling for ...."who named abroma /ambroma augusta >> originally? " >> and hit pay dirt, got the following : I QUOTE : " *Abroma Notes* >> >> *Malvaceae Info (Home) <http://www.malvaceae.info/index.html> >> Index to Genera <http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/index.html>* * >> Synonymy of >> Abroma<http://www.malvaceae.info/Synonymy/Synonymy.php?file=Abroma> >> * >> >> *Abroma angustum (L.) Murray* >> >> *Introduction* >> >> *Abroma (the persistent orthographic variant Ambroma is due to Linnaeus >> fils) is a genus belong to tribe Byttnerieae and subfamily >> Byttnerioideae of the angiosperm family Malvaceae sensu lato.The genus >> was introduced in 1776 by Jacquin, based on Linnaeus's Theobroma augusta, >> but renaming the species as Abroma fastuosa. The correct combination was >> subsequently made by Linnaeus fils and Murray. Abroma, being based on >> the Greek βρομα (broma), is neuter, and while the feminine gender has >> generally been used for epithets in this genus, they should be corrected to >> neuter.* >> >> *Abroma is generally considered a monotypic genus, with the sole species >> being Abroma augustum. However there are conflicting chromosome number >> reports (2n = 16, 20, 22, 24) for this species, so the possibility that it >> represents a species complex remains open.* >> >> *Abroma angustum (L.) L.f. >> **[image: Description: Chinese] ang tian lian* >> >> *Synonyms of Abroma augustum include Abroma alata Blanco, Abroma >> angulataLam., Abroma >> angulosa Poir., Abroma communis Blanco, Abroma elongata Lam., Abroma >> fastuosa Gaertn., Abroma fastuosa Jacq., Abroma fastuosa Vent., Abroma >> molle DC., Abroma mollis DC., Abroma obliquum C.Presl, Abroma wheleriRetz. >> and Theobroma >> augusta L..* >> >> *Malvaceae Info (Home) <http://www.malvaceae.info/index.html> >> Index to Genera <http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/index.html>* * >> Synonymy of >> Abroma<http://www.malvaceae.info/Synonymy/Synonymy.php?file=Abroma> >> * >> >> *© 2011 Stewart R. Hinsley"* >> >> *http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/Abroma/Abroma.php* >> >> *when I searched for ambroma versus abroma…* >> " end quote >> >> >> >> AND *WHAT IS ORTHOGRAPHIC VARIANT YOU ASK*? as per an article in Taxon >> >> >> Homonyms, Paranyms and Orthographic Variants >> Hj. Eichler >> Taxon >> Vol. 12, No. 1 (Jan., 1963), pp. 15-20 >> >> >> *orthographic variant is a DIFFERENT SPELLING FORM OF A VALIDLY >> PUBLISHED NAME....* >> READ IT AT >> >> http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1216675?uid=3738256&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21101126705337 >> >> >> * >> SINCE IT WAS LINNAEUS"S SON the fils means son... (or a father whichever >> ) I take it was paerhaps the son... but could also be the father since he >> was alive during the first description of this plant.*.. >> >> >> *SO THIS IS JUST A SPELLING MISTAKE BY THE FATHER_SON DUO.... >> * >> I AM DEFINITELY DONE WITH THIS >>>>> >> THIS IS BEGINNING TO BORE ME>>>> >> >> I"LL DO ONE THING FOR SAKE OF COMPLETION (esp since my first submission >> keeps coming up on googling) I'll copy paste what I wrote here to that >> thread and also put a link to this SURJAIT's thread there ... >> >> SAYONARA TO ABROMA....AMBROMA .... >> >> *USHA DI * >> >> ps this Surajit thread 's link is >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!search/abroma$20surajit/indiantreepix/JHioQNsI0ws/t34JcxnzPUAJ >> >> >> *THE END * >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:52 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Usha Di, >>> >>> I think Malvaceae week was observed in September 2011, and i was not a >>> member at that time. Moreover, it is not possible for me to go through all >>> posts in the group, current or past. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Gurcharanji and Satish Phadke discussed it if I remmeber it >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:13 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Usha Di for the suggestion. But a search of "malvaceae week" >>>>> gives 643 results and browsing all is not feasible. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:44 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Surajit and all: >>>>>> >>>>>> During the Malvaceae week the classification was discussed... >>>>>> if you wish you can go back and see the discussion... >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning dear Surajit Ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please find attached herewith a PDF on APG III. You can go through >>>>>>> page 96 where you'll find all the families treated under Malvaceae >>>>>>> (including Sterculiaceae). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this satisfies your query. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Ritesh. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good morning Ritesh Ji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the info. But it gives birth to more >>>>>>>> questions- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - What is APG III ? >>>>>>>> - Why should Sterculiaceae go to Malvaceae? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dug up a little bit and found this- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APG <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APG_system> > APG >>>>>>>> III<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APG_III_system>> >>>>>>>> Malvales <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvales> > >>>>>>>> Malvaceae<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvaceae>> >>>>>>>> Byttnerioideae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byttnerioideae> (not >>>>>>>> Sterculioideae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterculioideae> !!!) >>>>>>>> > Abroma >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oops! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing a detailed illustration of A. augusta. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the new system of classification (APG III) Sterculiaceae is >>>>>>>>> treated under Malvaceae. So you can keep this plant in your Malvaceae >>>>>>>>> folder. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy posting...and thanks again! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Ritesh. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ritesh Kumar Choudhary, Ph.D. >>>>>>> International Biological Material Research Center >>>>>>> Korea Research Institute of Bioscience & Biotechnology >>>>>>> 125, Gwahak-ro, Yuseong-gu >>>>>>> Daejeon >>>>>>> South Korea-305-806 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +82-42-879-8342 (O) >>>>>>> http://www.kribb.re.kr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it >>>>>>> would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a >>>>>>> Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > -- Usha di =========== --
