A reply: "Setaria verticillata(L.) P. Beauv" from Dr. Tanvir A. Khan.
On 3 August 2012 09:52, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > A reply: > "Setaria italica is the cultivated Foxtail millet. It is much bulkier and > the branches are longer. Also, it does not have retrorse barbs. > S.verticillata has retrorse barbs, which Surajit has confirmed by running > his fingers on them. > Regarding leaf size, do not go by the keys as most of the descriptions are > based on the type specimen and different herbarium collections. But there > can be plenty of variation in nature depending on genetics, environment, > climate, nutrition, rainfall, season, cattle grazing, soil, etc. Ideally, > such descriptions should be based on study of large populations at several > localities, but unfortunately these descriptions are just based on a few > herbarium specimen. Also the leaf size of upper leaves are shorter than the > lower leaves. Usually the middle leaves slightly below the centre are the > largest. Along roadsides, which are constantly cleared of grasses and > weeds, you can see very dwarf Setarias also which flower even at a few cm > height, whereas in undisturbed localities, it grows taller. It can grow to > giant size if it grows on fertilized agriculture fields or near a cow dung > pit. > Setaria palmifolia, S.paniculifera, S.poiretiana, S.plicata, S.barbata, > S.megaphylla, S.homonyma are species not only having plicate leaves, but > also has a branched, spreading inflorescence rather than a contracted > panicle. S.italica, S.geniculata, S.intermedia, S.verticillata and > S.gracillima, S.forbesiana, have contracted panicles, but leaves are not > plicate. S.glauca, S.pumila, S.sphacelata and S.viridis also are not > plicate leaved, but have very contracted panicles such that they look like > a cylindrical spike. Out of these, S.italica is cultivated as a millet and > S.sphacelata is cultivated as a fodder grass. Other Setarias mentioned in > Flora of China are not reported from India. > Regards... > Manoj Chandran" > > On 2 August 2012 09:09, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> “Yes probably Setaria italica" from Singh ji. >> >> >> >> “It is *Setaria verticillata*, commonly found in waste places. You can >> identify it from other species of Setaria from its retrose barbs on the >> bristles. For this try running your fingers from bottom to top of the >> inflorescence. If your fingers cannot run smooth, then the barbs are >> retrose (backward curved). In all other species, you can run your fingers >> smoothly without any hurdle. >> Regards... >> Manoj Chandran” >> >> >> >> “I am immensely grateful to you for all the ID and identifying key to >> various grass species. I *will give the 'finger test' a try whenever i >> find the grass again, maybe tomorrow morning. *Meanwhile attaching more >> images of the same grass, recorded on 21/7/12. >> Regards, >> Surajit Koley” >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >> Date: 15 July 2012 01:08 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:121944] grass ID from Hooghly 15-7-12 SK1 >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Sir / Madam, >> >> Found this grass beside a railway track. >> >> Species : UNKNOWN >> Habit & Habitat : about 4 feet high, beside a railline >> Date : 4/7/12 >> Place : Hooghly >> >> Thank you & Regards, >> >> Surajit Koley >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members & >> 1,20,700 messages on 30/6/12) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >> of more than 7000 species). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use > them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members & > 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website: > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database > of more than 7000 species). > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members & 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 7000 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. --
