Sir,

I am indebted to all of you. I cannot forget so much care and time you have
extended to me to meet all my queries regarding identification of plants.

I convey my deepest respect to all.

With Regards,

Surajit Koley




On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:

> A reply:
> "Setaria verticillata(L.) P. Beauv" from Dr. Tanvir A. Khan.
>
> On 3 August 2012 09:52, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A reply:
>> "Setaria italica is the cultivated Foxtail millet. It is much bulkier and
>> the branches are longer. Also, it does not have retrorse barbs.
>> S.verticillata has retrorse barbs, which Surajit has confirmed by running
>> his fingers on them.
>> Regarding leaf size, do not go by the keys as most of the descriptions
>> are based on the type specimen and different herbarium collections. But
>> there can be plenty of variation in nature depending on genetics,
>> environment, climate, nutrition, rainfall, season, cattle grazing, soil,
>> etc. Ideally, such descriptions should be based on study of large
>> populations at several localities, but unfortunately these descriptions are
>> just based on a few herbarium specimen. Also the leaf size of upper leaves
>> are shorter than the lower leaves. Usually the middle leaves slightly below
>> the centre are the largest. Along roadsides, which are constantly cleared
>> of grasses and weeds, you can see very dwarf Setarias also which flower
>> even at a few cm height, whereas in undisturbed localities, it grows
>> taller. It can grow to giant size if it grows on fertilized agriculture
>> fields or near a cow dung pit.
>> Setaria palmifolia, S.paniculifera, S.poiretiana, S.plicata, S.barbata,
>> S.megaphylla, S.homonyma are species not only having plicate leaves, but
>> also has a branched, spreading inflorescence rather than a contracted
>> panicle. S.italica, S.geniculata, S.intermedia, S.verticillata and
>> S.gracillima, S.forbesiana, have contracted panicles, but leaves are not
>> plicate. S.glauca, S.pumila, S.sphacelata and S.viridis also are not
>> plicate leaved, but have very contracted panicles such that they look like
>> a cylindrical spike. Out of these, S.italica is cultivated as a millet and
>> S.sphacelata is cultivated as a fodder grass. Other Setarias mentioned in
>> Flora of China are not reported from India.
>> Regards...
>> Manoj Chandran"
>>
>> On 2 August 2012 09:09, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> “Yes probably Setaria italica" from Singh ji.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “It is *Setaria verticillata*, commonly found in waste places. You can
>>> identify it from other species of Setaria from its retrose barbs on the
>>> bristles. For this try running your fingers from bottom to top of the
>>> inflorescence. If your fingers cannot run smooth, then the barbs are
>>> retrose (backward curved). In all other species, you can run your fingers
>>> smoothly without any hurdle.
>>> Regards...
>>> Manoj Chandran”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I am immensely grateful to you for all the ID and identifying key to
>>> various grass species. I *will give the 'finger test' a try whenever i
>>> find the grass again, maybe tomorrow morning. *Meanwhile attaching more
>>> images of the same grass, recorded on 21/7/12.
>>> Regards,
>>> Surajit Koley”
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 15 July 2012 01:08
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:121944] grass ID from Hooghly 15-7-12 SK1
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sir / Madam,
>>>
>>> Found this grass beside a railway track.
>>>
>>> Species : UNKNOWN
>>> Habit & Habitat : about 4 feet high, beside a railline
>>> Date : 4/7/12
>>> Place : Hooghly
>>>
>>> Thank you & Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit Koley
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& 
>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
>> alphabetically & place-wise):
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
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>> 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website:
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>> of more than 7000 species).
>>  Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& 
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members &
> 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website:
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
> of more than 7000 species).
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>
>

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