A reply:
"Dear Dr. Widodo and others,
Well I'd be pretty scared of attempting to identify most species in
Indonesia! - apart from those I saw in Java - or those I know well from
India, as it is much more complicated there, and we are so badly lacking a
detailed revision of Blume's species - or even a comprehensive checklist of
species.
However in this case I reckon there's not too much of a problem,
though it is important to see a close-up of the rhizome scales, which are
distinctive between the species.
It has to be a choice of either Pyrrosia piloselloides, or
Lemmaphyllum carnosum (not L. microphyllum as that is a lot smaller and has
very much shorter fertile fronds, only 1.5 cm. long, tending to be slightly
wider or more obtuse at their apices, and has smaller sterile ones than
this does). But I think that Lemmaphyllum does not occur in Indonesia?
Anyway, it looks exactly like our well known P. piloselloides to me -
which is so common on trees in Assam, for example, even in towns. If it
were from here I'd certainly have identified it as that!
Chris Fraser-Jenkins, Kathmandu. "
Thanks, Dr. Chris.
On 13 August 2012 10:21, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
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> “Could be *Lemmaphyllum microphyllum*.” from Pankaj ji.
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> From: Pudji Widodo <[email protected]>
> Date: 2012/8/2
> Subject: [efloraofindia:123378] Indonesian Ferns
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
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> Dear Sirs, especially Dr Chris,
>
> Could you ID our epiphytic fern please. Is it also Pyrrosia? Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Pudji Widodo
> Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
> PURWOKERTO 53122 *INDONESIA*
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