I was thinking, I read some references and it says the length of fertile leaves in L. microphyllum can be from 2-4 cm. That ways I think it can fits into carnosum!! Please accept my apologies for the mistake. Pankaj
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > A reply: > "Dear Dr. Widodo and others, > Well I'd be pretty scared of attempting to identify most species in > Indonesia! - apart from those I saw in Java - or those I know well from > India, as it is much more complicated there, and we are so badly lacking a > detailed revision of Blume's species - or even a comprehensive checklist of > species. > However in this case I reckon there's not too much of a problem, > though it is important to see a close-up of the rhizome scales, which are > distinctive between the species. > It has to be a choice of either Pyrrosia piloselloides, or > Lemmaphyllum carnosum (not L. microphyllum as that is a lot smaller and has > very much shorter fertile fronds, only 1.5 cm. long, tending to be slightly > wider or more obtuse at their apices, and has smaller sterile ones than this > does). But I think that Lemmaphyllum does not occur in Indonesia? > Anyway, it looks exactly like our well known P. piloselloides to me - > which is so common on trees in Assam, for example, even in towns. If it were > from here I'd certainly have identified it as that! > Chris Fraser-Jenkins, Kathmandu. " > > Thanks, Dr. Chris. > > On 13 August 2012 10:21, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> “Could be Lemmaphyllum microphyllum.” from Pankaj ji. >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Pudji Widodo <[email protected]> >> Date: 2012/8/2 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:123378] Indonesian Ferns >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Sirs, especially Dr Chris, >> >> Could you ID our epiphytic fern please. Is it also Pyrrosia? Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> Pudji Widodo >> Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman >> PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them >> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members & >> 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of >> more than 7000 species). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them > for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1900 members & > 1,23,300 messages on 31/7/12) or Efloraofindia website: > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of > more than 7000 species). > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- ********************************************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. Conservation Officer Office: Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 --

