OK Gurcharan ji. Many many thanks for this clarification. Regards. Dinesh
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Young fruit always looks different from a mature fruit. You should > concentrate on shape of corolla: in Solena and your plant corolla lobes are > very small and somewhat recurved, in Diplocyclos they are very long (tube > very small) and spreading. Also in your specimens I could not detect any > forked tendril. I think we better go with Solena only. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Apologies Gurcharan ji, the word "fruit" got omitted in my response: >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> Need clarification regarding whether shape of *Solena amplexicaulis* * >> fruit* does vary. >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> My concern is about the fruit in the posted plant - is kind of ellipsoid >> with pointed ends, with no signs of ridges; ... in the comparative >> pictures, have posted a *Solena amplexicaulis *fruit which in growing >> stage is already elongated, shows hint of ridges too. >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dinesh ji >>> Tendrils in focus should be conclusive, as leaves can vary. Tendrils are >>> simple in Solena, forked in Diplocyclos >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Yes Dinesh Ji leaf shape varies but not of flowers >>>> pls see attached picture of mine shot from Govindghat-Ghangriya Trek >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Need clarification regarding whether shape of *Solena amplexicaulis*does >>>>> vary. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes Sir leaves and flowers are different in both and clearly seen in >>>>>> Dinesh Ji's Post >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes Solena appears the closest choice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>> Putting pictures for comparison: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Posted plant * >>>>>>>> *Solena amplexicaulis* *Diplocyclos palmatus* [image: ¿ >>>>>>>> Diplocyclos palmatus >>>>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786968544%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcV6T4szLEmP648C6I6Y1JuCAKQkg> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> Solena >>>>>>>> amplexicaulis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7576117242%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeX3OyA-vcbvZLarpyU-AE0-Pk7HQ> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> Diplocyclos >>>>>>>> palmatus]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4171239842%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze8sOGMvXDmwtot9b6cBFENsILx6Q> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> ¿ Diplocyclos palmatus >>>>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786958320%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzerYoj_aD5wIHKtQsmA_z6JTW-ILA> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> Gometi (Marathi: >>>>>>>> गोमेटी)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3731868743%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfSiiqL7Yrf0uyjkIquBFxLlF39CA> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> Diplocyclos palmatus >>>>>>>> 02]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fchdeff_photos%2F5018129514%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfHQjvEO5frFc8aB7iTNTkSlUhO9Q> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Balkar Singh <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To me it looks like Solena amplexicaulis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps yes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here are ours from Chakrata: both species >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Diplocyclos >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/2GvMucEhgK0/pIpVRKk45fUJ%5B1-25%5D<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/2GvMucEhgK0/pIpVRKk45fUJ%5B1-25%5D> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/ia3PzKAPr0Y/TRqIbJ-mAc4J%5B1-25%5D<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/ia3PzKAPr0Y/TRqIbJ-mAc4J%5B1-25%5D> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Solena >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solena$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/tUFL_B3VxFI/Q14jQds4z3UJ%5B1-25%5D<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Solena$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/tUFL_B3VxFI/Q14jQds4z3UJ%5B1-25%5D> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Many many thanks Nayan ji for this probable ID. >>>>>>>>>>> Will wait for validating comment(s). >>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Nayan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like Diplocyclos palmatus syn Bryonopsis palmatus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Nayan. >>>>>>>>>>>> ........................... >>>>>>>>>>>> N.S.Dungriyal IFS >>>>>>>>>>>> Chief Conservator of Forests (CAMPA) >>>>>>>>>>>> Satpura Bhawan >>>>>>>>>>>> M.P. Nagar Bhopal >>>>>>>>>>>> Madhya Pradesh >>>>>>>>>>>> Mo - 09424790074 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 18 August 2012 11:42 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:124568] DV :: 01 AUG 12 - 0851 :: ¿ >>>>>>>>>>>> Solena amplexicaulis ? along Govind Ghat - Ghangaria trail >>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: ... Govind Ghat - Ghangaria >>>>>>>>>>>> trail]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795543800%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdy9anJ0CbW9GsAoDhKdyVOSW55GA> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> AUG 12 >>>>>>>>>>>> Govind Ghat - Ghangaria trail ... 5800 - 10160 ft >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, ID please. >>>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat*: along trail on mountain slope** *Habit*: climber, >>>>>>>>>>>> aspects of flower resembles *Solena amplexicaulis***... however >>>>>>>>>>>> the fruit seems different from that observed in Western Ghats.* >>>>>>>>>>>> * ** >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: ... Solena-like >>>>>>>>>>>> cucurbit]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786958320%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzerYoj_aD5wIHKtQsmA_z6JTW-ILA> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: ... Solena-like >>>>>>>>>>>> cucurbit]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786954854%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfVhDgsIJoNtXq82THyVU1xmtDhGg> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> ... Solena-like >>>>>>>>>>>> cucurbit]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786948040%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezqklkzJrItcl45OtyaSobQ3oFbQ> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> ... Solena-like cucurbit; fruit >>>>>>>>>>>> differs]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786968544%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcV6T4szLEmP648C6I6Y1JuCAKQkg> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>> ... Solena-like >>>>>>>>>>>> cucurbit]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7786972378%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcLWUInWadySvalj8Jkv9mzmtQ_sA> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh ** -- ** ** ** ** >>>>>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>> Haryana-132103 >>>> 09416262964 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > --
