Dear Prashant, I saw your upload at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/5WZGkGM5IG0/LKL1NxdUy2YJ To me, when I see them in profile view, most of them have the green sepals higher than the yellow petals. Top views of the flowers give an illusion that the yellow petals are longer. Will wait for comment(s). Regards. Dinesh
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dinesh, > I had also uploaded same plant. The petals are longer than the sepals. > Regards > Prashant > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for digging into these *Sibbaldia*. >> Attaching cropped pictures showing out-of-focus area. >> >> My recollection: >> Could see 2 plants with flowering stems ascending. >> 1) about 15 cm max. >> 2) about 30 - 40 cm >> The flower about 4 mm; looks lesser than sepals in most of the instances. >> I do not know about pilose OR appressed pilose petioles. Not sure if it >> can be made out in these views. >> >> >> [image: Sibbaldia ¿ cuneata / procumbens >> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7904539998%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcQdEJZwVb_7Hy-bKS9UiWht2g5uA> >> >> [image: Sibbaldia ¿ cuneata / procumbens >> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7904540954%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcdzKX7CP50BVeK667mDwRXFHCCiQ> >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dinesh ji >>> It would be interesting to resolve this mystery. Flora of British India >>> records Potentilla sibbalii Hallier.f with following synonyms: >>> 1. Potentilla sibbaldii Clairv >>> 2. Potentilla sibbaldia Greiss. >>> 3. Sibbaldia procumbens L. >>> 4. Sibbaldia parviflora Willd. >>> 5. Sibbaldia cuneata Edgew. >>> 6. Sibbaldia cuneata Kunze >>> >>> As it seems these are now considered under two species >>> >>> 1. Sibbaldia procumbens L. with synonyms Potentilla sibbaldia >>> Greiss. , Potentilla sibbaldii Hallier.f., >>> >>> 2. Sibbaldia cuneata Hornem ex Kunze >>> >>> >>> >>> (Sibbaldia parviflora Willd. unresolved and Sibbaldia cuneata Edgew. not >>> mentioned (in Fl. China or the Plant List) except as synonym of S. >>> procumbens in Flora of Pakistan >>> >>> Both species are described in Flora of China and differ as under: >>> >>> S. procumbens: Petals shorter than sepals; floweringt stems prostrate or >>> ascending, 4-30 cm tall; petiole pilose; flowers 4-6 mm in diam. >>> >>> S. cuneata: Petals equal or longer than sepals; flowering stems erect or >>> ascending; 5-14 cm tall; petiole appressed pilose; flowers 5–7 mm in diam. >>> >>> Perhaps close up of flower can help resolve. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Dinesh Valke >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji. >>>> At The Plants List, found these are being treated as separate species: >>>> *Sibbaldia procumbens* L. and *Sibbaldia cuneata* Hornem. ex Kuntze >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now correctly known as Sibbaldia procumbens >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the probable ID. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sibbaldia cuneata I hope >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Valley of >>>>>>>> Flowers]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795632618%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfiscXcV1ezkljkoVaSBkd-7VO2FQ> >>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> AUG 12 >>>>>>>> Valley of Flowers ... about 9900 ft >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Dear friends, ID please. >>>>>>>> *Habitat*: growing on rock >>>>>>>> *Habit*: small herb, about 15 - 40 cm high; flower about 3 - 4 mm >>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> P1020382]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7845513686%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdpGpjkETxz4JtXnoqN56vqxSf2LQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> P1020385]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7845508574%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeXZtmhRkH3k26SCu2qXp4p6AXIhg> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> P1020387]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7845503754%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc5YoQUL2QJIMSXBgyMecSMVmFe-w> >>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>> P1020388]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7845498980%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcGiMg-KxU63jTRg2dVew-7O9qIeA> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > --
