Ushadi Let me put it simply There are two different plants: E. laeta Heynes ex Roth (1821) E. laeta Aiton (1789) Since two different species are given the same name they are homonyms, former being later homonym (junior homonym) is rejected irrespective of whether E. laeta Aiton (earlier homonym or senior homonym) is accepted name or not. E. laeta Aiton happens to be a synonym of E. dendroides L., a fact that has come to light relatively recently and this old website does not give this synonym. My purpose of the link was only to show how different this plant looks. And it does not grow in India. The Indian plant was described in Flora of British India as E. rothiana Spreng with E. laeta Heynes ex Roth as synonym. Since latter has earlier date of publication, so several recent books treated E. laeta Heynes ex Roth as correct name and E. rothiana a synonym, but the decision had to be reversed once it was known that it is a later homonym.
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Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > wrote: > > nice to know , Dinesh, thanks > > Gurcharnaji: > NO I AM NOT CONFUSED > I was looking at the plants in the link you gave above .. its from a > university on the Mediterranean islands off coast of Spain > > my question was about this E. laeta... that website shows plants older > than any I have seen from any indian book or site...hence the questions... > > if it is our native.. how come we / indians dont have pictures of older > plants ???? > > that's what I as asking... or are the spaniards more careful of their > plants? > > usha di > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Ushadi >> I think you got confused. E. dendroides is a different species not found >> in India. It shares with E. rothiana of Kas region, the synonyms which are >> homonyms. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Interesting discussion... >>> 1: is this native of the mediterranean islands? since the website link >>> is from univ in the tiny island... >>> >>> 2: the pictures of their garden's samples seem several years old... >>> do they grow that big in KAS or in the western ghats... ie comfortable >>> for a few years? >>> or do they get eaten by goats etc and are seen small specimen only? >>> >>> or are they newly naturalized "weeds" ??? >>> >>> sorry asked a lot of questions and may be some Maharashtra college >>> botanists/ecologists / forest dept would have these aswwers ... >>> >>> usha di >>> == >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Euphorbia laeta B Heyne ex Roth. (1821) can't be the correct name for >>>> two reasons >>>> 1. It is an illegitimate name being a later homonym of E. laeta Aiton >>>> (1789), a totally different species now considered as synonym of Euphorbia >>>> dendroides L. >>>> >>>> http://herbarivirtual.uib.es/cat-med/especie/4468.html >>>> >>>> This is another example of confusions we land into when not citing the >>>> authors. I found numerous entries on the web of this plant, with two as >>>> synonyms and none citing the authority. >>>> >>>> E. rothiana Spreng should thus be taken as correct name and Euphorbia >>>> laeta B. Heyne ex Roth as synonym. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> BSI Flora of Maharashtra and FOS mentions this as *Euphorbia laeta. >>>>> *Family : Euphorbiaceae. >>>>> Syn. *Euphorbia rothiana* >>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> [image: ... Kas >>>>>> skyline]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8035015844%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcDVdj__6tKTqSABRfvEGMun25Rew> >>>>>> Kas >>>>>> plateau ... about 4000 ft asl >>>>>> ... one of the 39 World Heritage sites in the Western Ghats of India >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> 19 OCT 07 >>>>>> * Euphorbia rothiana * Spreng. ... (family: Euphorbiaceae) >>>>>> *yoo-FOR-bee-uh* -- named for *Euphorbus*, Greek physician to Juba >>>>>> II ... Dave's >>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DEuphorbia&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcB4PSD5iKKcxl13f1AoQkn8DcwUw> >>>>>> *roth-ee-AY-nuh* -- named for Dr A W >>>>>> Roth<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlbrecht_Wilhelm_Roth&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcr5mL4hrQvDWMnT1nzAP6xh0d3pw>, >>>>>> a German botanist ... >>>>>> ‡<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.archive.org%2Fstream%2Fvernacularlistof00lush%2Fvernacularlistof00lush_djvu.txt&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfto3zwZ-WPoVWmxbCgs1gKlnCegA> >>>>>> >>>>>> *commonly known as*: common hill spurge • *Marathi*: दुधी dudhi >>>>>> >>>>>> *Native to*: peninsular India, Sri Lanka >>>>>> >>>>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FCommon%2520Hill%2520Spurge.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfVHm-XYLB3aZGX9bNwG9NesLx4ZQ>• >>>>>> *Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant Ingalhalikar >>>>>> [image: Euphorbia rothiana >>>>>> Spreng.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1653198487%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdip2FONYlx1nT-hcRpfvtRipaxjA> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Dudhi (Marathi: >>>>>> दुधी)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1653453777%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdcPLnJ0wE-GjrAS5ExLiIZbnuqYw> >>>>>> [image: >>>>>> Euphorbia rothiana >>>>>> Spreng.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1654680850%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc42_CIimOffkt2idnRyXHwRhjDxw> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > > --
