Thank you, Gurcharanji.. this was a nice mid-advance lecture... I'll read it again and remember it
Thank you for clearing it up... and no wonder I was confused. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Ushadi > Let me put it simply > There are two different plants: > E. laeta Heynes ex Roth (1821) > E. laeta Aiton (1789) > Since two different species are given the same name they are homonyms, > former being later homonym (junior homonym) is rejected irrespective of > whether E. laeta Aiton (earlier homonym or senior homonym) is accepted name > or not. E. laeta Aiton happens to be a synonym of E. dendroides L., a fact > that has come to light relatively recently and this old website does not > give this synonym. My purpose of the link was only to show how different > this plant looks. And it does not grow in India. > The Indian plant was described in Flora of British India as E. rothiana > Spreng with E. laeta Heynes ex Roth as synonym. Since latter has earlier > date of publication, so several recent books treated E. laeta Heynes ex > Roth as correct name and E. rothiana a synonym, but the decision had to be > reversed once it was known that it is a later homonym. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> nice to know , Dinesh, thanks >> >> Gurcharnaji: >> NO I AM NOT CONFUSED >> I was looking at the plants in the link you gave above .. its from a >> university on the Mediterranean islands off coast of Spain >> >> my question was about this E. laeta... that website shows plants older >> than any I have seen from any indian book or site...hence the questions... >> >> if it is our native.. how come we / indians dont have pictures of older >> plants ???? >> >> that's what I as asking... or are the spaniards more careful of their >> plants? >> >> usha di >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Ushadi >>> I think you got confused. E. dendroides is a different species not found >>> in India. It shares with E. rothiana of Kas region, the synonyms which are >>> homonyms. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting discussion... >>>> 1: is this native of the mediterranean islands? since the website link >>>> is from univ in the tiny island... >>>> >>>> 2: the pictures of their garden's samples seem several years old... >>>> do they grow that big in KAS or in the western ghats... ie comfortable >>>> for a few years? >>>> or do they get eaten by goats etc and are seen small specimen only? >>>> >>>> or are they newly naturalized "weeds" ??? >>>> >>>> sorry asked a lot of questions and may be some Maharashtra college >>>> botanists/ecologists / forest dept would have these aswwers ... >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> == >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Euphorbia laeta B Heyne ex Roth. (1821) can't be the correct name for >>>>> two reasons >>>>> 1. It is an illegitimate name being a later homonym of E. laeta Aiton >>>>> (1789), a totally different species now considered as synonym of Euphorbia >>>>> dendroides L. >>>>> >>>>> http://herbarivirtual.uib.es/cat-med/especie/4468.html >>>>> >>>>> This is another example of confusions we land into when not citing the >>>>> authors. I found numerous entries on the web of this plant, with two as >>>>> synonyms and none citing the authority. >>>>> >>>>> E. rothiana Spreng should thus be taken as correct name and Euphorbia >>>>> laeta B. Heyne ex Roth as synonym. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> BSI Flora of Maharashtra and FOS mentions this as *Euphorbia laeta. >>>>>> *Family : Euphorbiaceae. >>>>>> Syn. *Euphorbia rothiana* >>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: ... Kas >>>>>>> skyline]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8035015844%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcDVdj__6tKTqSABRfvEGMun25Rew> >>>>>>> Kas >>>>>>> plateau ... about 4000 ft asl >>>>>>> ... one of the 39 World Heritage sites in the Western Ghats of India >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> 19 OCT 07 >>>>>>> * Euphorbia rothiana * Spreng. ... (family: Euphorbiaceae) >>>>>>> *yoo-FOR-bee-uh* -- named for *Euphorbus*, Greek physician to Juba >>>>>>> II ... Dave's >>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DEuphorbia&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcB4PSD5iKKcxl13f1AoQkn8DcwUw> >>>>>>> *roth-ee-AY-nuh* -- named for Dr A W >>>>>>> Roth<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlbrecht_Wilhelm_Roth&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcr5mL4hrQvDWMnT1nzAP6xh0d3pw>, >>>>>>> a German botanist ... >>>>>>> ‡<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.archive.org%2Fstream%2Fvernacularlistof00lush%2Fvernacularlistof00lush_djvu.txt&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfto3zwZ-WPoVWmxbCgs1gKlnCegA> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *commonly known as*: common hill spurge • *Marathi*: दुधी dudhi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Native to*: peninsular India, Sri Lanka >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FCommon%2520Hill%2520Spurge.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfVHm-XYLB3aZGX9bNwG9NesLx4ZQ>• >>>>>>> *Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant Ingalhalikar >>>>>>> [image: Euphorbia rothiana >>>>>>> Spreng.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1653198487%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdip2FONYlx1nT-hcRpfvtRipaxjA> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Dudhi (Marathi: >>>>>>> दुधी)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1653453777%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdcPLnJ0wE-GjrAS5ExLiIZbnuqYw> >>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>> Euphorbia rothiana >>>>>>> Spreng.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1654680850%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc42_CIimOffkt2idnRyXHwRhjDxw> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > > > > -- Usha di =========== --
