Agree with Gurcharan sir, Shrikant sir, Pankaj sir and Manoj sir and dinesh
sir

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> Many thanks Gurcharan ji, Shrikant ji, Pankaj and Manoj ji ... your
> thoughts and perspectives are very interesting reading, it threw lot of
> light to what I could not see.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM, manoj chandran <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Most of the muleteers are from Moradabad, Najibabad, etc and the total
>> number of mules during the season exceeds 10000. Chopper services can only
>> take the pilgrims till Ghanghariya. Choppers cannot fly to Hemkund as
>> Hemkund is most of the time under fog and cloud. If somebody opts for a
>> mule ride, then he will have to spend atleast Rs.4000 plus spend atleast
>> two days rent and also food charges. So, taking a chopper would not be that
>> additional an expense and also will save time. The major protest is from
>> muleteers and shopkeepers who think their business will fall. However,
>> there will always be pilgrims who prefer to walk to reach the shrine rather
>> than take a ride in a mule or helicopter. More chopper services would also
>> increase competition and the prices may also come down. The chopper takes
>> only 6 minutes to Ghangharia. Saving three days would also mean saving
>> three days of garbage. However, choppers and ropeways cannot cater to all
>> pilgrims, even those who do not wish to walk, because the total number of
>> pilgrims is too high. So, a ropeway will only be an additional facility and
>> will in no way reduce the impacts of tourism. Rather, more pilgrims would
>> be attracted due to the facility, who otherwise would not have ventured to
>> visit the shrine, which they believe is a life time achievement. The flora
>> of Hemkund Sahib has been the same from a long time ago, and the pilgrimage
>> also is very old. Collection of Brahma Kamal is also an age old practice.
>> These plants are perennial and propagates more by vegetative means than
>> from seeds. Also, they grow in very gregarious populations and it is not
>> possible to collect all the flowers. The additional facilities will cater
>> to decrease the impact of increase in number of pilgrims. The major issue
>> is garbage and mule dung. Mule dung is very 'hot' and as such will burn the
>> vegetation. It can even dry the trees. So, mule dung will have to be first
>> treated or composted and then returned to the soil. Even then, excess
>> nutrition will have impact on local flora and will promote more weed flora.
>> Regarding garbage collection and cleaning by the EDCs and pilgrim
>> volunteers, it is just a redistribution of garbage from the walkways to
>> other places. The so called collection and recycling of polythene garbage
>> at Rishikesh takes place only once in a while. More dangerous is the
>> developement activities at Ghangharia. Most of the hoteliers are
>> constructing their upper stories in cement. There are also departmental
>> constructions taking place using cement and stone. The Sikh Regiment is
>> concreting the walkway at Ghanghariya. These have resulted in choking of
>> the root system and hence drying of the Abies spectabilis trees all along
>> the path at Ghanghariya. And all this happening in a Reserved Forest area.
>> If the forest department or anybody say anything against all these, they
>> are just treated as 'anti-development', 'pseudo-environmentalists', etc.
>> There is no support from the pilgrim community. There are some volunteers
>> who clean the walkways, but these volunteers are just a few compared to the
>> large amount of environmentally-unfriendly tourists. We cannot stop the
>> pilgrimage as it is a matter of religion and faith. We can only educate the
>> pilgrims to be eco-friendly. Nature has helped by restricting tourism to
>> only six months in a year and also thanks to landslides enroute which makes
>> the journey even tougher. Some pilgrims even walk from Rishikesh till
>> Hemkund Sahib. May pilgrims want to do the trek on foot, but they are not
>> able to do so because of physical reasons, but they also have the full
>> right to visit their shrine of faith. Going uphill on a rope way to  such
>> great altitudes defiinitely has problems of high altitude sickness, but if
>> they stay only for an hour or so and immediately return after darshan to
>> Govindghat, then it would be fine.
>> So, in short let us be clear that tourism/pilgrimage is not going to stop
>> and neither can be restricted. So, let us try to make it more eco-friendly
>> and give more facilities to the pilgrims to help them make their trip
>> impact-free. May be we have to sacrifice some land and flora so that the
>> remaining area is left unaffected. Let us hope that the ropeway and chopper
>> services will help in this endeavour.
>> But I see that no one has spoken about the greater trouble- the dam
>> proposed and under construction in Bhyundar valley.
>> You all may ask that I am a forest officer and along with other forest
>> officers still not able to do anything?!! Let me inform you that any forest
>> officer is just a small servant of the public. He/she can only advice the
>> public on the pros and cons, but it is the public who has to take a
>> decision. Just give your support to the forest guard and see the difference
>> he can make. In spite of all pressures and criticisms, they try to perform
>> and do their best for the benefit of nature and in turn humanity.  But the
>> reality is that the public alienates the forest department and its staff
>> thinking that they have come from a different world to harass the public.
>> Somebody could volunteer to conduct a survey and find out who the real
>> beneficiaries of the pilgrimage are - the pilgrims, tour operators,
>> villagers, muleteers and shopkeepers from outside the state, contractors
>> benefitting from the construction, politicians, shrine authorities,
>> government departments, NGOs, etc? Whoever is the beneficiary there is only
>> one entity which do not benefit rather suffer from these activities- that
>> is biodiversity and the environment, what we call 'NATURE minus the
>> destructive man'.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:49:11 PM UTC+5:30, Rajesh Sachdev wrote:
>>
>>> Centre approves Hemkunt Sahib ropeway project
>>>
>>> *CHANDIGARH:* For convenience of the pilgrims, the Centre government
>>> has given its approval for ropeway from Gurdwara Gobind Dham to Hemkunt
>>> Sahib. The project will cost around Rs 75 crore and expected to finish in
>>> 2014 before the commencement of Hemkunt Sahib yatra in summers.
>>>
>>> In the first phase of the project, the ropeway will be operational till
>>> Gurdwara Gobind Dham which will be later extended to Gobind Ghat. At
>>> present, the pilgrims can also commute from Gobind Ghat to Gobind Dham
>>> through chopper services which cost Rs 3,500 per person.
>>>
>>> Hemkunt Sahib is one of the most revered places in Sikhism where tenth
>>> Sikh guru, Guru Gobind Singh meditated before his incarnation as the Sikh
>>> guru. Every year, the doors of Hemkunt Sahib open for the Sikh pilgrims on
>>> June 1 who can visit till October 5.
>>>
>>> Later, the Gurdwara is kept closed during the winters as the
>>> environmental conditions are not suitable for human visit and survival as
>>> the gurdwara is located at an altitude of 4,632.96 metres (15,200.0 ft).
>>>
>>> http://www.punjabnewsline.com/**news/Centre-approves-Hemkunt-**
>>> Sahib-ropeway-project-.html<http://www.punjabnewsline.com/news/Centre-approves-Hemkunt-Sahib-ropeway-project-.html>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>> Rajesh Sachdev
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