Good morning Sir Thank you very much.
Regards, surajit On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Ganesh Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear all, > Bit of clarification from my side. > 1.) Trichosanthes dioica Roxb is botanical name listed for patola in all > Ayurvedic texts. there is supposed to be a bitter variety. > 2.) Root is used extensively in cardiac medicines. > 3.) seed is spermicidal when eaten > We have used it in cardiac vessel block with very good results. > > It is non toxic to humans > Dr.Ganesha Kumar > Ayurveda acharya > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:38 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Good evening Sir >> >> While PATOL (fruits) and PALTA (leaves) can be enjoyed in various ways >> PATOL TOLA is strictly No No ! For, PATOL TOLA (TOLA = picking up) in >> Bengali means leaving this beautiful world for ever! >> >> And Tanay Ji informs the deadly poisonous contents of its roots in - >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/9LTzrdxD_6I/discussion. >> I have also heard it many a times. >> >> Searched and found these - >> >> - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3111694/ >> - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22545421 >> - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20695728 >> >> These days i check both The Plant List and GRIN for any botanical name. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Surajit ji >>> Perhaps it is better to ignore The Plant List totally for unresolved >>> names (as I have mentioned many times that it is their misfortune if they >>> are not able to understand a particular taxon). Even for plants which they >>> claim to have resolved, many of their conclusions or just laughable. In >>> some cases they list a name (combination) as accepted name but don't list >>> basionym as synonym. Many names are totally missing from the The Plant >>> List. In other cases some species are shown in one genus others in >>> different one. Perhaps I am tired of pointing out to them, so I simply >>> ignore. >>> Trichosanthes dioica Roxb. is well established name: >>> >>> >>> http://www.phcogrev.com/article.asp?issn=0973-7847;year=2012;volume=6;issue=11;spage=61;epage=67;aulast=Kumar >>> >>> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?314328 >>> >>> So just enjoy your PATOL >>> >>> It is better to compare GRIN and Flora of China entries with the Plant >>> List and if there is any conflict better follow the former. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:57 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning >>>> >>>> The Plant List is amazing! One of the most popular veg. in West Bengal >>>> is PATOL, yet The Plant List reckons it as an unresolved name - >>>> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2433209 !!! Why? Is it >>>> because there is another *T. dioica* - >>>> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2433208, and that too >>>> unresolved? >>>> >>>> Well, whatever the Latin name of this plant is it is PATOL for sure. >>>> You can eat it fried, make curry with potato - ALU-PATOL, prepare delicious >>>> PATOLER DOLMA. And if your are invited to any Bengali marriage ceremony the >>>> menu certainly will start with LUCHI (PURI) and PATOL-BHAJA. You can take >>>> breakfast with POLTA and MURI, POLTA is bitter tasted leaves of this plant >>>> fried with BESAN as TELEBHAJA !!! >>>> >>>> According to The Bengal Plants, Prain, p 517, :- >>>> >>>> *Trichosanthes dioica* >>>> Roxb<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?314328>.; >>>> F.I. iii. 701; F. B. I. ii. 609; E.D.T. 586. >>>> In all the provinces. >>>> A rather extensive climber. *Hind.* PALWAL; *Beng.* PATOL; *Uriya* >>>> PATAL. >>>> >>>> The photos were recorded yesterday, a cultivated species in Hooghly. >>>> >>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Dr.ganesh Kumar > Dr.Vijaya lakshmi > Vignesh Ayurvedic clinic > 13th A main, 50ft road > Hanumantha Nagara; Near railway booking counter > Bangalore 560050 > > Ph: 9480514378 > Ph: 9480514387 > 080-22428739 > 080-22420582 > > > --
