sepengetahuan saya COMMIT pada trigger dengan AUTONOMOUS TRANSACTION hanya berlaku untuk operasi2 didalam trigger tersebut. jadi jika setelah trigger selesai diekesekusi kita rollback, perubahan didalam trigger juga ikut ter- rollback.
mungkin ada yang pernah coba, jadi bisa CMIIW. ----- Original Message ----- From: m Ilhami To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [indo-oracle] error mutating trigger Saya kurang setuju pakai AUTONOMOUS TRANSACTION. Seandainya transaksi insert row tersebut digabung dengan operasi di tabel lain, jika ada sesuatu, saya tidak bisa me rollback seluruh transaksi tersebut. Record tersebut tetap terinsert ke dalam tabel. Saya lebih setuju dengan membuat procedure untuk operasi insert + summary tersebut. AUTONOMOUS TRANSACTION biasanya hanya saya gunakan untuk logging saja. 2008/7/17 Oscar Wilyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kalau solusinya menggunakan Application Code tentu saja tidak menjawab pertanyaan awal, karena error mutating table yang ditanyakan pak Risty tidak akan pernah terjadi. > > Jika menggunakan application code untuk menjaga integritas database juga memiliki kelemahan tersendiri, yakni database tidak mandiri, misalnya: saat menulis Applikasi baru dengan bahasa program yang berbeda, semua integritas database harus ditulis ulang, menurut saya ini kelemahan besar. Jauh lebih baik menulis trigger saja. > > Salah....statement trigger juga tidak bisa di pakai. > gimana anda bisa mendapatkan transaction ID yang di process kalo tidak ada > :NEW ?? > > Pakai statement trigger tentu saja bisa, tetapi sifatnya mengupdate tabel tersebut secara keseluruhan (UPDATE .. WHERE...) dengan menggunakan timming AFTER, jadi tidak diperlukan nilai :NEW, dan masalah mutating table yang ditanyakan tetap akan terjadi, oleh karena itu cara termudah menurut saya pribadi tetap menggunakan PRAGMA AUTONOMOUS_TRANSACTION seperti yang saya kemukakan dari awal. > > Mengenai menggunakan statement atau row trigger, dalam kasus ini saya pribadi lebih prefer menggunakan row trigger. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yoel Susanto > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: [indo-oracle] error mutating trigger > > > Salah....statement trigger juga tidak bisa di pakai. > gimana anda bisa mendapatkan transaction ID yang di process kalo tidak ada > :NEW ?? > > Paleng bagus yah pake procedure yang dipanggil oleh application secara > explicit setelah transaksi selesai (COMMIT). > karena application pasti tau transaksi ID nya. > > 2008/7/16 Oscar Wilyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > ok, saya sudah menangkap maksudnya. jadi dalam kasus ini lebih baik > > menggunakan 'statement trigger' daripada 'row trigger'. dan bukan tidak > > menggunakan trigger sama sekali. > > > > mudah2an kasus pak Risty ini terjawab. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Yoel Susanto > > To: [email protected] <indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [indo-oracle] error mutating trigger > > > > untuk kasus seperti ini, saya rasa tidak ada. > > cara paleng simple dan menguntungkan yah di application code nya. > > > > transaksi > > -- insert record 1 > > -- insert record 2 > > -- insert record 3 > > -- insert record 4 > > end transaksi (Commit) > > > > call procedure; > > > > Skali lagi untuk kasus ini, tidak ada gunanya melakukan computasi setiap > > selesai insert record baru. > > Yang benar adalah setiap selesai transaksi, dari contoh yang di berikan TS > > , > > 1 transaksi bisa terdiri dari beberapa record tergantung package barang > > nya. > > > > 2008/7/16 Oscar Wilyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <oscar%40mkdgroup.com>>: > > > > > Selain menggunakan trigger, apakah ada cara lain untuk mengotomatisasi > > > pengeksekusian sebuah SQL statement atau memanggil procedure dengan > > timing > > > setiap kali selesai insert baru? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Yoel Susanto > > > To: [email protected] <indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com><indo-oracle% > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:12 AM > > > Subject: Re: [indo-oracle] error mutating trigger > > > > > > cara paleng mudah yah tidak perlu trigger. > > > ketika Anda mau melihat Summary transaksi, lakukan dengan SQL statement > > :)) > > > > > > ATAU create PLSQL Procedure untuk menggantikan trigger tersebut. > > > panggil procedure tersebut setelah selesai insert detail transaksi > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > 2008/7/16 risty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<deny_risty%40kudus.puragroup.com> > > <deny_risty%40kudus.puragroup.com> > > > >: > > > > > > > pak Yoel... > > > > pada prinsipnya table_a adalah tabel detil utk menampung data packing > > > suatu > > > > produk yang mana yang membedakan selain no urut adalah jumlah BOX dan > > ISI > > > > sehigga akan mendapat total TOT_QTY ( box x isi). Dari situ data akan > > > > otomatis masuk ke table_b lewat trigger dalam bentuk rekap > > quantitasnya. > > > > Adakah struktur yg harus di pisah lagi ?? Apakah harus menggunakan > > > variable > > > > array dalam triggernya utk menampung summary qty nya?? Mohon solusi dan > > > > bimbingannya > > > > thq sebelumnya....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Yoel Susanto > > > > To: [email protected] <indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com><indo-oracle% > > 40yahoogroups.com><indo-oracle% > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:51 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [indo-oracle] error mutating trigger > > > > > > > > Hi Risty, > > > > > > > > Saya mau tanya mengenai business procedurenya., karena mungkin anda > > > > melakukan sesuatu yang tidak perlu. > > > > Apa yang membedakan record berikut, sehingga mereka harus dipisah > > > > berdasarkan no urutnya?? > > > > Saya liat no_trans, tgl trans, item sama semua, kenapa kalau ini adalah > > > > satu > > > > transaksi mereka harus dipisah recordnya > > > > > > > > 55 01/05/08 1 A 2 100 200 > > > > 55 01/05/08 2 A 1 50 50 > > > > > > > > 2008/7/15 risty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<deny_risty%40kudus.puragroup.com> > > <deny_risty%40kudus.puragroup.com> > > > <deny_risty%40kudus.puragroup.com> > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > Dear all masters... > > > > > > > > > > saya adalah pemula oracle,bagaimana menghindari error mutating > > trigger > > > > > bilamana triggenya mengakumulasi qty dari table_a itu sendiri > > > > > > > > > > mis: table detil_a > > > > > > > > > > no_trans tgl_tans no_urut item box isi tot_qty > > > > > ------------ ------------ ----------- -------- ------ ---- --------- > > > > > 55 01/05/08 1 A 2 100 200 > > > > > 55 01/05/08 2 A 1 50 50 > > > > > 56 01/05/08 1 B 1 200 200 > > > > > > > > > > akan otomatis di insert ke table_b lewat trigger > > > > > > > > > > no_trans tgl_tans item tot_qty > > > > > ------------ ------------ ------- ------- > > > > > 55 01/05/08 A 250 > > > > > 56 01/05/08 B 200 > > > > > > > > > > Harus seperti apa trigger yg harus dibuat, mohon solusinya?? > > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > Yoel Susanto > > > > > > > > www.indo-oracletech.com > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > Yoel Susanto > > > > > > www.indo-oracletech.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > <table width="100%"> > > > <tr> > > > <td> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------<br> > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > > the > > > individual named. 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