Alexey Mahotkin wrote:

> >>>>> "NLY" == Noel L Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >>  If OpenSSH client will always send wrong info (I mean username and
> >> password here), then cvs-server will never authenticate it ;)
>
> NLY> I think we're arguing different points here.  My point is that
> NLY> the OpenSSH client can send over a valid CVS username and
> NLY> password.  It's just that the username/password doesn't belong to
> NLY> the client.
>
> I can't understand how you can call "valid" u/p that do not belong to
> the client.  Who thinks of them as valid?

[snip]


> --alexm
>
> P.S.: Derek, could you please make any conclusion or summary out of
> our long enough and learned enough dispute? ;)

I think Noel is referring still to the SSH client authenticating as a
single UNIX user but then attempting to map to many CVS users.  I have
been objecting to the part, as I understand the request and as I think
you understood it, about not requiring passwords or other
secure/semi-secure methods for the second phase authentication.  I
haven't studied your nserver model yet, but the conventional CVS has no
2-phase authentication methods available.  If it is using any :ext:
method (RSH, SSH, etc.) or pserver, the originally authenticated user
name is what you will see in the logs, though you can map to a secondary
user which the CVS server will run under - convenient for file
permissions, though I would usually rather map each user to their own
user ID and rely on the OSs users, groups, & file permissions to do that
job.

I'm not sure Noel understands what we mean by authenticate.  I just said
this in a previous email, but an SSH server is relying on a standardized
protocol and a password known (in theory) only to it and a particular
user.  It is irrelevant if an OpenSSH client has been hacked, because a
malicious user with a "pure" client could have obtained the same
information if they already had the user's password (or private key in
some cases) and a "hacked" client which didn't have the correct password
or which didn't support the protocol properly couldn't have authenticated
anyhow.

Derek

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