Yes, I agree.  I haven't mentioned anything because I just recently subscribed, but 
sheesh! look at the all this stuff.  It just 
seems like two people disagreeing, and as such should be held over private channels.  
If I'm incorrect and other people 
find the discussion to be valuable, please disregard this and accept my apologies.

- josh

Josh Walker
Behavioral Technology Labs
http://btl.usc.edu
"Better Living Through Simulation"

Original message from: Donald Sharp
>Please, can we stop this thread?  I think we can all agree that
>their is a philosiphical( sic ) difference between each side here.
>I also think that we can agree that each side's not going to convince
>the other of their arguement.
>
>Thanks!!
>
>donald

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