forgive me but you are completely insane. I do agree that most people do not
need firewall protection but anyone with any sense whatsoever would run
virus software while they are on the internet.
Kathy
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Subject: RE: * informant * Zone alarm and virus attacks
> Why would anyone think that you sent a virus or worm just because your
> message has the name of the virus or worm in it? Some unreliable trojan
> and virus detectors in the past would send up false warnings. If
> anyones virus scanner does this then I would question it's reliability.
> Surely a good virus scanner can tell the difference between a virus and
> text string. His virus scanner may be suffering from *paranoia;)
>
> I went years without a virus scanner. Never opened an email attachment
> from unreliable sources, never used java based or html based mail
> readers like Outlook, and did not use floppy disk from other sources.
> When I finally installed a virus scanner it found nothing. I belive
> virus scanners give false since of security and also use up a lot system
> resources and memory. They are very over-rated and companies like
> Mcafee and Symantec pray on your paranoia. The media, in particularly
> CNN helps to promote it. Just think what would virus writers do if
> there exploits didn't get all that attention? What would they do if
> everyone pretended not to notice?
>
> Another fad going around is personal firewalls and firewall like warning
> systems, ZA. Here paranoia gives software makers another opportunity to
> make money. Most people do not run file sharing, web server, email
> server, ftp server, etc. So ask your self this, if you're not running
> ANY services, then do you really need a firewall at all?
>
> I was challenged to break into an iMac computer. Trojans wouldn't work
> because the user is tech savy and would never open the attachment; he
> also uses text based MUA. So I would have to rely on some remote
> connection method since I did not have physical access to the machine.
>
> No luck. the iMac doesn't run any services by default so I could not
> connect. In essence, he doesn't need a firewall at all. My friend
> thinks Macs are the best and when I recommended he get ZA or some other
> type of firewall/warning system make for a Mac, he said show me why I
> need a firewall. I failed. He really does not need a firewall.
>
> Windows 95 started it all. Without you knowing it shared your network
> info and system to the world using windows netbios file sharing. MS
> introduced us to HTML mail with graphics, tables, and java script. Now
> that presented another problem. Later came or was it first(?) NT 4.0
> with the blue screen bug in which anyone from a remove location could
> lock up your machine (aka the blue screen of death).
>
> As far as I know, Macs have never had these types of problems. MS
> called these features (execpt for the BSOD), I call them software bugs
> which should have been fixed during development before the product
> shipped, or at leasted informed the user about the file sharing or
> javascript capabilities and how to get rid of it.
>
> Many programmers and network specialist I know do not use any virus
> scanner. The scanner can cause problems when build certain applications
> and use up needed memory. Gee, I wonder why they don't get a virus.
> Maybe it's as simple as being aware of where virus come from and how
> they infect your system.
>
> All system bios' have a boot virus protection program, all you have to
> do is turn it on.
>
> jay
>
> paranoia:
> "A psychological disorder characterized by delusions of persecution or
> grandeur"
>
> Rita wrote:
> > Thanks for the info! Glad to know it's not only me and my son. To
> > make matters worse I have been hit with at least 9 viruses in the
> > past 10 days on my home computer and on web based accounts. The
> > latest is the w95x.hybrisx.worm and the w32x.badtrans.13312@xmm
> > virus I added 2 X's in each so you do not think I am sending a
> > virus.
> >
> > I am so sick of the internet I am getting totally paranoid! I
> > keep getting email from a fellow who tells me I am sending him
> > the badtrans and I know it is not my system. I am clean unless
> > Norton's is lying. If it were, others would have noticed the
> > attachments. He just will not stop. *sigh*
> >
> > Welcome to the 21's century. It's gonna get worse folks.
> >
> >
> > Rita
> >
> >
> >
>
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