On 6/14/05 1:34 AM, "Jon Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 10.3 on my laptop and 10.4 on my desktop. 10.4 just doesn't > feel finished. I had a program that never crashes crash. I don't > get why we need widgets, and the security concern there annoys me. > Safari's privacy mode appears half-assed and Omniweb still has a much > better interface. Disk encryption still isn't AES-256. Shipping > only a DVD version makes it a pain in the ass to install on my older > hardware. Maybe 10.4.2 will be finished enough for me? On 6/14/05 2:52 AM, "Jens Lorenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I pretty much agree with you. > I'm a systems and security consultant from Germany and changed over from > Windows last year and straight into Panther. Simply loved it (well, I still > do I suppose). I thought the phrase about a "window to a better world" was > true. Not that OS X is perfect, but it kind of is that window. And I found > it to be very stable - as you said, the feel of a finished OS. > > So I was pretty much looking forward to 10.4, esp. after all that hype - 250 > improvements, better AD integration, etc. Keep in mind I'm a tech person and > I do participate in AD and Exchange environments - that's one of the reasons > I went to OS X instead of a different UNIX flavour, because it's easy to > integrate into AD and Windows environments, there's MS Office for Mac and I > can still run my X11 apps without booting to a different system. > > So I pre-ordered 10.4 and spend that weekend when it came at home... > First big disappointment was that the AD login accounts weren't cached any > more - and that worked fine with Panther. So no offline login with AD > accounts... Improvement? > I do like spotlight, but for starts it froze my machine regularly. It took > me a little while until I realized that it did that every time my Entourage > DB changed (mail sync) and it tried to unsuccessfully index it. It stopped > when I excluded The Microsoft User Data folder in my Documents folder. > That's the trick with spotlight btw, you have to exclude what you don't want > indexed and it won't eat that much of your resources anymore. I actually > found the system much more stable after I reduced spotlight to indexing only > the folders I use for my docs. By default it indexes everything - why index > your applications???. > > Other than that I also have the feeling that 10.4 (and 10.4.1) is not quite > finished - actually something I know (and don't miss) from the OS I formerly > used. That combined with the first couple of security holes that come with > the new features (automatic widged install with 10.4, etc.) made Tiger not > the roaring experience for me. I also thought about going back to 10.3.9 a > couple of times. > > My system is quite stable now, but I had to tune it and I'm not sure that a > non technical person would be able to do this that easily (e.g. solve the > Spotlight/Entourage problem). I always thought that OS X is an easy to use, > intuitive OS, not something you need to have a lot of technical > understanding to use and run. I think that is a little less true now... > > Well, maybe 10.4.3 will be as stable as Panther? On 6/14/05 6:14 AM, "Barry Ritholtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Mail is an enormous improvement. (That said, I still cannot schedule > when to send something). > > The Widgets are annoying -- they would have some functionality if > they could run "normally," > i.e., weather or wikipedia right on my screen at all times, and not > some odd background f'n. > And having to go to a separate library to delete them is extremely > unMac like. > > I find spotlight works well -- I've been using it as an easy lookj up > for phone numbers in > my address book -- w/o launching the address book -- reminds me of > the old Dynodex -- > which had a similar menu pulldown. > > Overall, 10.4 seems mostly solid -- but I still find a regular reboot On 6/14/05 8:58 AM, "Charles Pinneo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave and Richard, > > I'm two weeks into Tiger and I think the Dashboard Widgets are really > fun, practical and time saving -- can't get along without the > Weather, Sunlit Earth, and Yellow Pages Widgets. If you're an early > riser and drink coffee, you want to know exactly when the crack of > dawn is going to crack -- that's what Sunlit Earth is for. You have > to practice using Widgets to get quick. It takes some time. If you're > not using them enough, maybe you will lose interest. Spotlight is > fast and thorough on my iBook G3. I have my RAM all the way up to 576 > MB. I use iTunes, iTunes Music Store, and an iPod and I buy a lot of > jazz tunes. Those three things are really percolating. Also I enjoy > using the dictionaries in combination with Merriam-Webster Online > Dictionary and Thesaurus for writing email. Wikipedia is a great > Encyclopedia. And that goes with the Dictionary Widget. I'm sure the > Widgets will improve and people will think of new ones. Anticipation. > > You know this is all personal. It's a matter of taste. I may like > Tiger for a thousand different reasons and you may be luke warm for a > thousand other reasons. There is no right or wrong about this. It's a > matter of taste. On 6/14/05 9:22 AM, "Brian Dunbar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been running 10.4 for several weeks now. I confess it had not > occurred to me to check CPU usage for Spotlight. I'll flip on top and > poke at it later. Some early-morning thoughts; > > I like 10.4 I do not as yet know if the upgrade price (monetary) was > worth it but early returns say "sure why not". > > It is possible since the upgrade my laptop has experienced more > problems. I've noticed the spinning beach ball while browsing for > example and on occasion the entire system seems to catch it's breath > then lurch forward. > > Some possible mitigating circumstances. I go from heavy network usage > (proxy, Active Directory connections, ssh to dozens of Solaris servers, > connect to Exchange) at work to standard 'talk to the Internet' usage at > home. It might be that there is a transition time where 'spinning > beach-ball-ness' is simply the system getting used to the new > environment - shedding AD connections and so on. > > I paid relative scant attention to the system before upgrade - it's > possible all of this was happening before the upgrade and I didn't > notice. Also true that (for reasons unknown - mostly I'm dumb) I wasn't > using aliass to access SMB mounts on the NetFilers at work. On 6/14/05 9:25 AM, "Robert Bryce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > I posted a note on IP a few days ago complaining of the same issues: > spinning beach balls. > Tiger runs slow slow slow. > Further, I've had Safari crash on me several times. > That said, I dig Spotlight. The more I use it the better I get at > understanding how to use it. > I'm a new convert to the Mac and don't plan on going back. But I'm > frustrated. I'm running a g4 powerbook with 1.25 gigs of RAM, so I > imagine other people must be frustrated as well. > I'm hoping Apple fixes this in a new version. You are a subscribed member of the infowarrior list. Visit www.infowarrior.org for list information or to unsubscribe. This message may be redistributed freely in its entirety. Any and all copyrights appearing in list messages are maintained by their respective owners.
