On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:32 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 08:22:31AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:21 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 08:10:59AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:51 AM Stephen John Smoogen <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 07:35, Neal Gompa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:21 AM Kamil Páral 
> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 AM Kevin Fenzi 
> > > > >> > > <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > It will be nice but I am not aware of any other system in place 
> > > > >> > > which would
> > > > >> > > replace checks performed by autocloud.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > (CC'ed tflink and kparal)
> > > > >> > > Does taskotron provides capability to perform tests on Fedora 
> > > > >> > > cloud Images
> > > > >> > > like booting images and other basic checks?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > (My email to the list was rejected because I'm not subscribed, let 
> > > > >> > me try again from the web UI...)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Theoretically it is possible using nested virt. However, Taskotron 
> > > > >> > is going away as well. The replacement is Fedora CI:
> > > > >> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/ci/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But Fedora CI is broken and/or vaporware. How can we replace 
> > > > >> Taskotron
> > > > >> with that?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Honestly.. weren't we saying the same damn thing about taskotron 
> > > > > until Fedora CI became the latest thing to rail about. It was 
> > > > > constantly 'why do you spend time on this broken crap' and then it 
> > > > > becomes the 'oh why are you replacing my favorite thing in the 
> > > > > world'. I am pretty sure there are multiple thesis and doctorates on 
> > > > > the codependency that OpenSource developers exhibit..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I actually don't remember this for Taskotron... I'm pretty sure that's
> > > > because most of us can't interact with it.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with Fedora CI is that it's documentation is useless and
> > > > attempts to use the system end in miserable failure.
> > >
> > > Sorry for asking, but could you point me to the tickets you've opened for 
> > > the
> > > issues you've seen/faced?
> >
> > I personally haven't opened any tickets because I can't figure out how
> > to use it. But I've heard from others (Fabio, Miro, etc.) that none of
> > it works, so I haven't bothered trying to dig into it anymore.
>
> Would be nice to rely on your own experience rather than hearsay :)
> I'm not saying Miro hasn't had problems, he has said so in a few occasions
> before with links to tickets he opened but I'm hearing a lot of people
> bad-mouthing CI while there aren't so many tickets on:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-ci/general/ considering how wide it is deployed and
> should impact the community.
> So I'm questioning if people are bad-mouthing because they've heard other 
> people
> doing it or because they have legitimate issues that have been reported and
> should be fixed.
>
> I'm very happy to help raise concerns/issues from the community about issues
> about the CI pipeline but I need to have hard-facts and tickets to be able to 
> do
> so, not hear-say.
>

My two problems right now:

1. I don't know how to actually use it (I'd like to for snapd, at least)
2. I really don't want to have to design an Ansible playbook for this
(that's overkill!).


-- 
真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
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