On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 08:41, Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:28 AM Clement Verna <cve...@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 15:06, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was looking for information on the future of the packages
> >> application[1]. I didn't see it mentioned in the commblog post[2].
> >
> >
> > Currently the application is in a kind of maintenance mode (in reality I
> don't have much time to look at tickets). This application is really
> valuable and used a lot, but the big problem is the technology stack it is
> built on TurboGears2 and making an heavy use of Moksha (
> https://moksha.readthedocs.io/en/latest/), while TG2 is still active
> upstream, this is not the case with Moksha and some of the TG2 dependencies
> the application has. The effort to move away from these 2 framework is
> quite high and I don't think we currently have the cycles for it.
> >
> > My personal opinion is that we should really try to consolidate on
> src.fp.o and instead of investing time in porting packages to more recent
> technologies we should put that effort in adding the missing features to
> src.fp.o.
> >
>
> If we lose the packages app, we'll lose the only way to search for
> binary packages. src.fp.o only shows source package names, and most
> people aren't going to know what those are.
>

Why can't we enhance src.fp.o to be able to search using binary packages ?
All the data the packages app is using the build the search index is coming
from mdapi (https://mdapi.fedoraproject.org/) so I don't see why we could
not build a similar index as part of src.fp.o and at the same time improve
the search experience there.


>
> That said, I'm already working on many different applications that CPE
> is trying to offload as it is. I can't personally take on this one
> too.
>

Welcome to our world :-)

>
> But perhaps this is worthy of some kind of internship or other student
> program project?
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is it OK for us to link to the packages application in documentation, or
> >> should we just link to src.fp.o already (in the NeuroFedora
> >> documentation[3]) for example?
> >>
> >> The one thing that makes us prefer the packages app is that it has the
> >> install command listed there while src.fp.o does not. That makes the
> >> packages app somewhat more appropriate for end-users than
> >> src.fp.o---src.fp.o has links to all the other build pipelines
> >
> >
> > That's sounds like something that could be easily solved. For example
> having a simple README.md for each package with a Description, How to
> install and How to report Bugs.
> >
>
> It is strategically infeasible to use the README.md file in this way
> for src.fp.o. If we want data showing up there, we need to adjust
> src.fp.o itself to show that data.
>

I lack the knowledge here, why would that be strategically infeasible ? due
to the volume of packages ?


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