On 9/12/19 4:16 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 9/12/19 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 02:32 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:28 AM Clement Verna <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 15:06, Ankur Sinha <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking for information on the future of the packages
>>>>> application[1]. I didn't see it mentioned in the commblog post[2].
>>>>
>>>> Currently the application is in a kind of maintenance mode (in reality I 
>>>> don't have much time to look at tickets). This application is really 
>>>> valuable and used a lot, but the big problem is the technology stack it is 
>>>> built on TurboGears2 and making an heavy use of Moksha 
>>>> (https://moksha.readthedocs.io/en/latest/), while TG2 is still active 
>>>> upstream, this is not the case with Moksha and some of the TG2 
>>>> dependencies the application has. The effort to move away from these 2 
>>>> framework is quite high and I don't think we currently have the cycles for 
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> My personal opinion is that we should really try to consolidate on 
>>>> src.fp.o and instead of investing time in porting packages to more recent 
>>>> technologies we should put that effort in adding the missing features to 
>>>> src.fp.o.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If we lose the packages app, we'll lose the only way to search for
>>> binary packages. src.fp.o only shows source package names, and most
>>> people aren't going to know what those are.
>>
>> FWIW, a feature of the packages app I use *all the time* is
>> bugz.fedoraproject.org/<packagename> . I can do everything I use that
>> for in other ways, sure, but it's a fantastically helpful shortcut for
>> finding and reporting bugs in <packagename>.
>>
> mee too. ;(
> 
> I also used 'pkgwat releases packagename' a lot. (pkgwat was the
> packages command line app, but it's python2 only, so it went away I
> fear. That was a nice easy way to see what release of a thing was in
> each of the supported branches...
> 

Wow. I never even knew about `pkgwat`. I have an alias in my shell that
will pop open the packages app for any rpm name:

```
fpkgpage ()
{ 
    xdg-open https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/${1}
}
```

So I use `fpkgpage dnf` or whatever anytime I need to get to a good launch point
to find all the information about a package. I really like the packages app and 
will
be really sad to see it go. I use it all the time. 

I'm just another one of those freeloaders that can't commit to maintaining it 
though.

Dusty
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