On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 08:34, Patrick Uiterwijk <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:58 PM Stephen John Smoogen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Currently I am dealing with 1-3 failed account creations a day due to
> our spam checking tool, basset.
> >
> > Basset is the tool which sits in the account system creation path and
> tries to check to see if an account is semi-valid or not. This was written
> by Patrick Uiterwijk about 4 to 5 years ago to deal with a large increase
> of spam accounts from a group who were paying people to get past other spam
> tools versus using scripts. We came up with various heuristics and tools to
> make for a general 'oh you are using a one-time-email system.. no account
> for you' and other checks.
> >
> > However it is almost a full time job to keep up with all the various
> spam groups methods for creating fake accounts for whatever they want. I
> haven't put much time into since 2018 and the heuristics that basset is
> using to judge whether a person has a valid account or not are way out of
> date. The spam groups have also gotten more sophisticated in creating
> accounts so we are more likely to allow a spammer in than a 'ham'-mer.
> >
> > I am not sure what to do.. I do not know how hard it would be to pull
> basset out of the system and I do not have the time to update/fix/improve
> Patrick's code on this. So I figured it would be good to get some feedback
> on this.
>
> Disabling it is very simple.
> Just remove all the config lines at
>
> https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/tree/roles/fas_server/templates/fas.cfg.j2#n135
> .
>
> An alternative could be to just increase the required spam-score from
> Basset to *very* high numbers (in the thousands), so it never sees
> someone as spam.
> That last one would mean it also doesn't need changes in the other
> apps that might be integrated with it, and it would still get all the
> useful info.
>

That is probably the better plan. The tool has been very useful.. it is
just needing someone to do the tuning work  or to expand it to do that
learning itself. I do not have that time, and I would prefer that people
knew that versus expecting to improve by itself.

-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
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