> -------- Přeposlaná zpráva -------- Předmět:  Re: What is our technical debt?
> Datum:        Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:59:37 +0200
> Od:   Pierre-Yves Chibon <[email protected]>

> Adresa pro odpověď:   Fedora Infrastructure
> <[email protected]>

> Komu:         Fedora Infrastructure <[email protected]>

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 03:51:42PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:

> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:27 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Good Morning Everyone,
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Just like every team we have technical debt in our work.
> 
> > > I would like your help to try to define what it is for us.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > So far, I've come up with the following:
> 
> > > - python3 support/migration
> 
> > > - fedora-messaging
> 
> > > - fedora-messaging schema
> 
> > > - documentation
> 
> > > - (unit-)tests
> 
> > > - OpenID Connect
> 
> > >
> 
> > > What else would we want in there?
> 
> > >
> 

> > These are all good things, especially the documentation one. I'd like
> 
> > to zero in on a particular aspect of documentation, though: getting to
> 
> > hack on it. A lot of our projects are surprisingly difficult to get up
> 
> > and running for someone to play with and hack on, and this is
> 
> > increasingly true as we adopt OpenShift-style deployments. One way we
> 
> > solved this in Pagure is by providing some quick start processes in
> 
> > the documentation and a fully working Vagrant based process to boot up
> 
> > and have a working environment to hack on the code.
> 

> > I'm not necessarily going to specify it needs to be Vagrant for
> 
> > everything, but I think this is something we should have for all of
> 
> > our projects, so that people *can* easily get going to use and
> 
> > contribute.
> 

> I've recently had quite some pain with vagrant (just today, I've tried
> several
> time to start my bodhi vagrant box and lost my morning w/o success).

Hello, 

sorry I'm late to the party, I've heard of your Vagrant issues- 

I'm a Vagrant maintainer, and I'll gladly help if you encounter any Vagrant 
issues, feel free to ping me on IRC (`pvalena`). 
I can also do some review of your Vagrantfiles, and run some tests, if you like 
(to prevent instabilities etc.). 

One good thing I always advise to try are the latest stable (=rawhide) Vagrant 
builds from my COPR: 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pvalena/vagrant/ 

(Built for all Fedoras and CentOS 7+8, although CentOS 7 currently needs manual 
workarounds.) 

Pavel 

> I guess it may be nice to see if there is something else out there that we
> could
> leverage.
> If we could adopt one and try to get have it on most of our apps this may be
> a
> nice goal for us to work towards.

> Pierre
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