Thanks for your comments, C R.
Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour
the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape.
Well of course, that's not what I'm proposing. For the image I did search,
there was no scouring. It was the first result of the first search I made.
It was clear enough for me just to look at the image. But I searched it out
just to prove my suspicion. (It's the only time I've done that.)
For the rest of your comments, I had the very same thoughts at first. If it
could have been....why not. But the reason I wanted to try to discuss, is
because
(a) These images are numerous, considering our limited space.
(b) Most of them could really only be done by advanced users (That's usually
how I catch them. If they really had been made with Inkscape, in my
experience, the artist wants to shout it out - not make a drive-by upload.)
(c) I'm afraid it's misrepresenting Inkscape's abilities. I'm afraid it
gives the impression that it must be easy to create amazing images.
(d) It makes it harder to find the really awesome Inkscape-made images. It
kind of dilutes the pool of awesome.
I really have always (well, since I found Inkscape 10 years ago) wanted an
Inkscape-only gallery. To me, THAT would be amazing! And to me, that's
what the website should provide.
I wonder if it would work to have another category, or another Order By
option, like All Inkscape or 100% Inkscape, or something like that? Because
I certainly have no objection to having images in the gallery, for which
Inkscape was used only for part of it. But maybe it would be nice to have
the "all Inkscape" images easier to find?
Well anyway, as I said, I already had an idea that this isn't a big concern
for the community. But I just wanted to voice a few thoughts as to why
maybe it should be.
Thanks again :-)
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:33 AM
To: brynn
Cc: Inkscape-Docs ; Inkscape-Devel
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour
the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape.
I can think of several ways to do the graphic in question (or at least
similar) in Inkscape, so I'd let it stay as it's actually quite
stunning and not really hurting anyone.
Even if it's not done in Inkscape, it gets people thinking about how
it could be done in Inkscape, which is not a bad thing. Maybe it will
inspire someone to post a vector resource of it in the future.
Going forward, this is my recommendation: If it looks like it could
have been done in Inkscape, and it was posted on our website, then we
can assume (for the sake of aesthetics) that it was.
Obviously if the uploader came back and replied to your comment,
saying "Oh, I've not done this in Inkscape." Then you can remove it
without having to make any guesses. :)
Thanks for bringing it to attention, Brynn. Your hard work to fight
against random non-Inkscape posts is definitely making the site much
more usable and clutter free for everyone.
-C
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:29 AM, brynn <br...@frii.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,
I think I probably know how the community leans on this. But since
it bothers me so much, and happens so often, I thought it was worth not
assuming the answer, and finding out for sure.
A few months ago, we decided not to allow random photos in the
gallery, which are unrelated to the project in any way. We also decided
not
to bother with copyright issues. (long discussion -
https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/35798617/)
Probably equally as often as random photos being uploaded, are
images
which *could have been made with Inkscape* but which I doubt were. So
far,
I've been letting these go through. But as I said, I wanted to have a
discussion, rather than assume.
Here are a couple of recent examples:
-- 2 images, 1 resource and 1 thumbnail --
https://inkscape.org/en/~noahgabe@_99/%E2%98%85music
--
https://inkscape.org/en/~KristiBryant113/%E2%98%85jesus-saves-the-world2
(I did a little research on this one, and found it at many different sites
(many on different sites selling tshirts, as well as just web images) with
the same basic image (and this exact image here:
https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--rVeDm8Gt--/t_Preview/b_rgb:191919,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1503977524/production/designs/1857631_1.jpg)
-- so I'm pretty sure it wasn't made with Inkscape)
--https://inkscape.org/en/~chiquitita/%E2%98%8515230751-703016283207581-8475381764676214363-n
To me, all of those /could have been/ made with Inkscape. But I
have
reasons to doubt all of them. How do you all think they should be
handled?
I think they should be handled similarly to random photos (contact the
member, explain and link to CoC, ask to explain the relation to Inkscape,
ask if they would like to remove, inform after 2 weeks we will do it, of
course with graciousness. Or do we let them have the benefit of our
doubt?
I honestly don't understand why people go around posting random
images (apparently, afaict) in random galleries, once or twice, and never
come back. (I have the same curiosity about people who post 1 or 2
frivolous, sometimes meaningless messages in forums and never return.)
But
it seems worth the effort not to waste our limited resource on hosting
these
things.
Anyway, thanks for any thoughts or comments :-)
All best,
brynn
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