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Today's Topics:

   1. No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present? (Thomas Hochstein)
   2. Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present? (Thomas Hochstein)
   3. Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present? (Russ Allbery)
   4. Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present? (Thomas Hochstein)
   5. Re: storage.conf(5) manpage name too generic?
      (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:25:50 +0200
From: Thomas Hochstein <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi everybody.

I'm using INN 2.6.1 (Debian package 2.6.1-2) after updateding to
Debian stretch just some days ago. Debian jessie had 2.5.4, so those
Injection-* headers are quite new for me.

Today I noticed that my (locally submitted) posts don't have an
Injection-Date: header, although I have set "addinjectiondate" to
"true" in my inn.conf (which is the default setting anyway).

After a bit of testing it seems that I *do* get Injection-Date: set if
I don't submit a Message-ID: when posting (to nnrpd). If I include my
own Message-ID: to the POSTed message, Injection-Date: is *not* added
(but Injection-Info: is).

I don't think that's the way that should work.

-thh


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:30:47 +0200
From: Thomas Hochstein <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I wrote:

> I don't think that's the way that should work.

After reading the source that *is* the way it should work:

| 390       /* Set the Injection-Date: header. */
| 391       /* Start with this header because it MUST NOT be added in case
| 392        * the article already contains both Message-ID: and Date:
| 393        * header fields (possibility of multiple injections). */

Why is that so? AFAIR NNTP-Posting-Date: was added anyway.

Is there a way to add the Injection-Date:, short of adding it by a
nnrpd filter?

-thh


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:18:04 -0700
From: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain

Thomas Hochstein <[email protected]> writes:

> After a bit of testing it seems that I *do* get Injection-Date: set if
> I don't submit a Message-ID: when posting (to nnrpd). If I include my
> own Message-ID: to the POSTed message, Injection-Date: is *not* added
> (but Injection-Info: is).

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5537#page-17

   11.  If the proto-article already had an Injection-Date header field,
        it MUST NOT be modified or replaced.  If the proto-article had
        both a Message-ID header field and a Date header field, an
        Injection-Date header field MUST NOT be added, since the proto-
        article may have been multiply injected by a posting agent that
        predates this standard.  Otherwise, the injecting agent MUST add
        an Injection-Date header field containing the current date and
        time.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([email protected])              <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
     <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:58:31 +0200
From: Thomas Hochstein <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: No Injection-Date: if Message-ID: present?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Russ Allbery wrote:

> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5537#page-17

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

>    11.  If the proto-article already had an Injection-Date header field,
>         it MUST NOT be modified or replaced.  If the proto-article had
>         both a Message-ID header field and a Date header field, an
>         Injection-Date header field MUST NOT be added, since the proto-
>         article may have been multiply injected by a posting agent that
>         predates this standard.

I see. (I had to read up a bit on the meaning of Injection-Date. I
didn't know a posting agent was allowed - and in some cases - forced
to add that header.)

-thh


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:43:40 +0200
From: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: storage.conf(5) manpage name too generic?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My thoughts exactly. Thank you for the reply, Russ.

Regards,
Dominik

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