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Today's Topics:
1. Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
(Grant Taylor)
2. Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
(Grant Taylor)
3. Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
(Julien ?LIE)
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:17:59 -0600
From: Grant Taylor <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
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On 3/22/23 10:55 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Be somewhat careful about using exotic /usr/sbin/sendmail command
> lines, since that binary is almost never actual sendmail on modern
> systems and the other common MTAs may not support unusual sendmail
> flags.
Valid concern.
But -- what I'm going to call -- the "play it safe" mentality is almost
somewhat diametrically opposed to "using newer features" like I'm
suggesting.
Perhaps things would be better if INN had it's own stub SMTP client.
This is also why I've preferred to use SMTP instead of hoping for such
capable stub SMTP clients.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:19:56 -0600
From: Grant Taylor <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
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On 3/22/23 10:55 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Be somewhat careful about using exotic /usr/sbin/sendmail command
> lines, since that binary is almost never actual sendmail on modern
> systems and the other common MTAs may not support unusual sendmail
> flags.
There is also having different example commands in the config file
commented out with descriptions of what to uncomment.
# If your "sendmail" command supports the following, use this for the
most features.
# ...
# If your "sendmail" command supports a subset, us this for the widest
portability.
# ...
Type thing.
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Grant. . . .
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 20:23:01 +0100
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?
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Hi Grant,
> I'm wondering about including a small utility that will take messages
> from STDIN like the sendmail command does and actually does the (E)SMTP
> to the mail server.? That would allow leveraging all the ESMTP features
> that I'm thinking of presuming the SMTP server supports ESMTP.
We would then have to find someone willing to write that stub SMTP
client, maintain it, provide assistance to users...
Couldn't we just recommend people to install a modern and full-featured
MTA like Postfix to benefit from DSN (Delivery Status Notifications) and
configure bounces?
Any stub client we could write ourselves would be far inferior than
well-spread and tested MTAs...
> I think the following additional options are interesting:
>
> ?- `-N failure` means to only return a DSN on failure, not delay.
> ?- `-F "TNet Newsmaster" means to set the human name of the
> notification to "TNet Newsmaster".
> ?- `-opnobodyreturn` means to only return headers in the DSN.
These options could be mentioned for sendmail in a comment in the
inn.conf sample file like you suggested. Or the sample could explicitly
say to refer to the mta documentation in the inn.conf manual page (as
documentation is updated with news versions of INN whereas configuration
files are kept untouched, so any changes in comments won't be seen).
--
Julien ?LIE
??Quand je raconterai mon odyss?e, personne ne me croira?!?? (Ast?rix)
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