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Today's Topics:

   1. UDP Google GRoups (The Doctor)
   2. Re: UDP Google GRoups (Russ Allbery)
   3. Re: UDP Google GRoups (The Doctor)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:25:40 -0600
From: The Doctor <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: UDP Google GRoups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Google GRoups are now out of control with their spamtrollers.

We neews to do something..Option a)

in cleanfeed bad_hosts file put in google-groups.google.com

Option b)  

In newsfeeds put

ME/google-groups.google.com:\

Something has to be done
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Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b 
A position unevaluated more than likely will leave us looking like fools. 
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:12:12 -0700
From: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: UDP Google GRoups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain

The Doctor <[email protected]> writes:

> Google GRoups are now out of control with their spamtrollers.

> We neews to do something..

> Option a)

> in cleanfeed bad_hosts file put in google-groups.google.com

This isn't the right list for discussing Cleanfeed policy.  I'm not sure
if it has its own development list, but it's not something that is
comaintained with INN.

> Option b)  

> In newsfeeds put

> ME/google-groups.google.com:\

> Something has to be done

INN is news software that the installer can configure however they'd like,
not a project that takes a stance on network abuse issues.  I'm opposed to
shipping punative policy in its default configuration, no matter how
tempting or well-justified.  This is a bottomless pit of arguments and
stress and confrontation that I opted out of years ago and would
completely destroy my interest in doing further work on INN.  (This is
also why I'd rather not discuss Cleanfeed *policy* configuration on this
list, even if otherwise installing it with INN is moderately on-topic.)

We created news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for these discussions years ago
because otherwise they took over every other newsgroup or list discussing
Usenet administration and drowned everything else.  I personally would
really appreciate it if people would keep the discussion there and stop
bothering those of us who are uninterested and who will never be
interested.  I'm already killfiling the majority of news.software.nntp
traffic right now because people insist on cross-posting net-abuse traffic
there.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
     <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:38:13 -0600
From: The Doctor <[email protected]>
To: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: UDP Google GRoups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 08:12:12AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> The Doctor <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > Google GRoups are now out of control with their spamtrollers.
> 
> > We neews to do something..
> 
> > Option a)
> 
> > in cleanfeed bad_hosts file put in google-groups.google.com
> 
> This isn't the right list for discussing Cleanfeed policy.  I'm not sure
> if it has its own development list, but it's not something that is
> comaintained with INN.
> 
> > Option b)  
> 
> > In newsfeeds put
> 
> > ME/google-groups.google.com:\
> 
> > Something has to be done
> 
> INN is news software that the installer can configure however they'd like,
> not a project that takes a stance on network abuse issues.  I'm opposed to
> shipping punative policy in its default configuration, no matter how
> tempting or well-justified.  This is a bottomless pit of arguments and
> stress and confrontation that I opted out of years ago and would
> completely destroy my interest in doing further work on INN.  (This is
> also why I'd rather not discuss Cleanfeed *policy* configuration on this
> list, even if otherwise installing it with INN is moderately on-topic.)
> 
> We created news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for these discussions years ago
> because otherwise they took over every other newsgroup or list discussing
> Usenet administration and drowned everything else.  I personally would
> really appreciate it if people would keep the discussion there and stop
> bothering those of us who are uninterested and who will never be
> interested.  I'm already killfiling the majority of news.software.nntp
> traffic right now because people insist on cross-posting net-abuse traffic
> there.
>

FYI news.admin.net-abuse.usenet is being targeted by
the Google spamtrollers.

> -- 
> Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
> 
>     Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
>      <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.
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Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b 
A position unevaluated more than likely will leave us looking like fools. 
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