Andras,

Each of our systems, VTK, ITK and Slicer use a different process. I am
only comfortable with the one that I am currently using. If I change
from VTK to Slicer, I need to relearn. Even from VTK to ITK I have to
relearn a bit.

Until we all use the same process, we will have these issues. And that
I can assure you, will never happen...

Bill

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Andras Lasso <la...@queensu.ca> wrote:
>> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source 
>> community.
>
> Exactly! As a project leader, I don't like really GitHub as many features are 
> missing (that are standard on other project hosting services), you have no 
> influence on how things are evolving, there is effectively zero support or 
> customization (at least for free plans). However, our users and contributors 
> prefer/demand GitHub, as they are already familiar with it, know how to 
> submit pull request, how issues are managed, and already have account set up.
>
> About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:
>
> I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood, but 
> make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab. Anyway, 
> as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I find VTK 
> GitLab quite frustrating due to that:
> 1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware 
> network, but most community members are outside.
> 2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or bug 
> report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30 minutes 
> extra, just to find out how things work.
>
> Andras
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Community [mailto:community-boun...@itk.org] On Behalf Of Matt McCormick
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM
> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.loren...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Insight-Users <insight-us...@itk.org>; Hans Johnson 
> <hans-john...@uiowa.edu>; Insight Developers List 
> <insight-develop...@public.kitware.com>
> Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
>
> I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an excellent 
> job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice for ITK. 
> Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time since VTK 
> moved to GitLab.
>
> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source 
> community.
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.loren...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Vtk moved to GitLab.  Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see
>> why they didn't use gitlab?  For me, either github or gitlab is great.
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <hans-john...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1000 x +1
>>>
>>> I enthusiastically support this proposal.
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"
>>> <insight-users-boun...@itk.org on behalf of mille...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     +1
>>>
>>>     Jim
>>>
>>>     > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick
>>> <matt.mccorm...@kitware.com> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > Hi folks,
>>>     >
>>>     > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to
>>> GitHub, and
>>>     > we would like your feedback.
>>>     >
>>>     > As an open-source, community-driven project, mechanisms to
>>> communicate
>>>     > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.
>>>     > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over
>>> the past
>>>     > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact
>>> for open
>>>     > source development. It is now a hub for:
>>>     >
>>>     >  Microsoft
>>>     >  Facebook
>>>     >  Google
>>>     >  The Scientific Python Community
>>>     >  The 3D Slicer Community
>>>     >
>>>     > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already has 67
>>>     > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of
>>> projects that
>>>     > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with the
>>>     > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process) and
>>>     > already have an account on this platform. There are also
>>> advantages to
>>>     > linking issues and commits with other projects and repositories.
>>> Since
>>>     > ITK thrives on the open-source development idea, everyone who
>>> wants to
>>>     > help the project should be able to contribute, and therefore it
>>> should
>>>     > be as easy as possible to start participating in the community.
>>>     >
>>>     > Recently, GitHub's code review capabilities have greatly improved,
>>>     > which make it more feasible to coordinate contributions for a large
>>>     > project like ITK. And, there are many existing GitHub-integrated
>>>     > services that we can leverage.
>>>     >
>>>     > Thanks to resources from the National Library of Medicine and
>>>     > technological advances, it is now feasible to migrate the project's
>>>     > software process to GitHub. There are many infrastructural
>>> aspects to
>>>     > the migration, and it would take multiple months to complete. Please
>>>     > let us know your thoughts before we embark on the journey.
>>>     >
>>>     >
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