My first speech to a presbytery on this issue was in 1980, when Sydney
Presbytery debated whether or not to allow Paddington to lease an unused
church in Cleveland St Redfern to Metropolitan Community Church.  I was a
pastoral assistant at Paddington while awaiting placement. The Presbytery
agreed to the lease, then at the next meeting rescinded their decision, and
set up a task group to look at the issue of homosexuality. I was a member of
that task group. Paddington had been host to Metropolitan Community Church
for several years at that stage. It went on being host for several years
afterwards. The Presbytery fortunately could not tell us not to let them use
our church - only that we could not give them a lease. So instead of MCC
going off to Redfern to their own property, they continued to share our
church in Paddington, with their name and services clearly displayed on our
noticeboard, with its UCA logo.  If anyone turned up to evening service
expecting the UCA, they found the MCC instead. So thanks to Presbytery, we
have been making our inclusive stance clear for a very long time.
Ann
(Rev. Dr.) Ann Wansbrough
UnitingCare NSW.ACT
PO Box A 2178 Sydney South 1235
Phone (61) (02) 8267 4280 Fax (61) (02) 9267 4842
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From: "Bev Fabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: Ahead of schedule. Was: here's some news for you all


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>
> Darren said
> Do the sums, this discussion has gone on longer than half of my life.
>
> Bev's reply- in actual fact it is almost all of your life Darren. I was
> present at the Yarra Valley presbytery meeting in 1982 when the debate
> began- that is 21 years ago. I have lived through the long and thorough
> theological and Biblical debate in the church in the 1980's about
sexuality
> and the long and thorough theological and Biblical debate in the 1990's
over
> sexuality and now it looks like I will have to live through the long and
> thorough theological and Biblical debate of the 2000's. I'm with you, I am
> thoroughly sick of talking about this issue. My hope for 84 was that we
> would agree to live togehter in peace with differing views and get on with
> other matters of mission and ministry in the church. It seems others are
not
> prepared to do this.
>
> Bev
>
>
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