Hi Greg
Greg Crawford wrote:
Fair enough. But it would take me longer than I have available to
marshal all the evidence, with geography and timelines included, in a
reasonably compact form. If I were to answer fully(?), your question
could make a PhD thesis. Shall I recommend some books to read instead?
I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you asking me to do some research for
you to try to prove your case, or are you saying you have the information in
your head but can't give a concise summary?
Of course I'm not asking you to do the research for me. But neither do I see that *I* need to do all the work prior to having a dicussion. It's an issue that would require a lot of re-reading of the past two years of uni references in order to marshal the kind of evidence you suggested would be a pre-requisite for you to engage in discussion. Cross-matching the bounds of the EU with the bounds of the Roman Empire at the time of Constantine, and the then religious practices in each of those areas, plus looking at all the religions that were around prior to, and fed into, christianity, is (as I said) a thesis work, and I don't have time or energy for that, nor was it my intent.
If you want a *conversation*, you can't just throw a reading list at people. That comes across as very condescending.
I didn't actually say *I* wanted a conversation. I expressed a gripe. And I stand by that gripe - that church leaders who imply that their religion is the pre-eminent part of their nation's history, when they come from lands that had pre-christian religions and religions concurrent with christianity, are being arrogant.
What religions are you talking about? Islam? Wicker? ???
Among others (and that's Wicca, or Wica if you want the Gardnerian spelling). Add in Gnosticism, Mithras, Greco-Roman and Egyptian mythology, Celtic Druidry and several others. Christianity wasn't the beginning, even of itself, let alone of Europe.
One thing's for sure. I'm not going to construct your side of the argument as well as some other. I get sick of being the speaker for both sides of a debate and then being accused of savaging the opposition. :-(
That's not condescending, that's just plain rude, Greg. And I certainly don't intend to continue if that's the tone I'll get in reply.
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