Susan & Wesley wrote:

Only if you've omitted the possibility that god always chooses to listen
when people repent.

But that suggests that God knows when we are going to repent which would mean either 1/ That God is listening to all people at all times; or, 2/ there is a degree of preordination!

I don't think it necessarily suggests (1), and I don't have a problem with (2) if you're going to take the bible as authoritative.


Quite frankly, I don't think this is going anywhere. It started from a flippant response to a flippant comment, nad I'm now finding myself having to create an argument based on something that to me is nothing more than an analogy in the first place. So unless you want to get into a serious debate about beliefs about god and how god operates, which I already know we differ significantly on, I can't see it as being a very productive conversation.

Clare
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Clare Pascoe Henderson
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Clergy Sexual Abuse in Australia
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