Casper.Dik at Sun.COM writes:
> >My ABEs are rarely more than 5GB -- and that's being generous, as I
> >expect the OS to grow quite a bit over time.
> 
> All systems I have use 10GB because that's the minimum I found
> upgrades to work in; I am just allowing for some future growth.

I regularly use less than 5GB for my ABEs on systems with SUNWCall
installed.  I suspect you've got some trash on your root partition --
core and system dumps or huge log files, perhaps?

> I've had upgrades fail and require considerable cleanup with 10GB
> root partitions.  So I consider 15GB "ample, but not excessive"
> and 10GB "the absolute minimum".

Strange.  That experience seems extreme to me.  Have you filed a bug?

> >Minus, of course, the miniroot construction, testing, and the support
> >to make sure that it works from release to release.
> 
> But we must do the miniroot construction and testing anyway.

Yes, but only for initial install.

Unfortunately, this is another point of bad design: initial install
and upgrade are very different in operation.

> (And as of yet I have not dared throwing away the partition which contains
> the grub menu even though it seems that ludelete would allow it; does
> that work?)

Sure.  ludelete moves it to another slice.

> Perhaps we can have a poll on OpenSolaris, see which percentage of installs
> are liveupgradable.

I don't think that'll actually answer the question as it runs into a
different problem: the default install of the system doesn't support
LU.  That's a bug.

Better questions would be:

  - Can you use Live Upgrade?

  - If not, then what specific issues are blocking you from using it?

> My guess is that we'll do away with at least 80% of free testing we get 
> from Solaris Express/Solaris Express Community Edition.  And I fear that 
> that is an optimistic guess.

I have no way of knowing.  At least for myself, I stopped doing
regular upgrade years ago because it's just too painful and life-
threatening.

(For what it's worth, I'm not actually part of the Install group.)

> I can live with "unsupported" because inter express upgrades are 
> unsupported now anyway.  But just as now "unsupported, while accepting
> and fixing reported bugs".  Or perhaps community supported.

I think the motivation may be to simplify: by removing bits that are
no longer needed.

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