I've been following this discussion for some time now and it would seem 
that it is very counter productive to the whole Open Community concept. 
We at Sun can't invite people from all over the world to contribute to 
Solaris and then put up road blocks because they don't know the Internal 
Sun procedures and protocols. Getting into shouting matches over 
language when its been made clear that English is not the contributors 
first language should not even be considered. It is our job at Sun to 
help them.

I'm not an expert at packaging and I don't control this project but I 
will speak up that this is wrong. Solaris is no longer a closed system 
and software that is open such as Linux have a choice of open software 
to pick and choose from. I do know that in Linux you have a choice of 
package management software, so to me the best thing for Sun is that the 
user gets a choice of package software (and any other software) so they 
can use the one they understand and feel comfortable using.

Bruce Rothermal

Martin Bochnig wrote:
> John Plocher wrote:
>   
>>> Finally this request 
>>>       
>> You are right - your ARC request wasn't a diss, but the other email from
>> Martin and you on the topic of the distro community and conary on
>> ogb-discuss
>> that same day came across that way.  I apologize for painting both
>> discussions
>> with the same brush.
>>     
>
>
> If I say something, it automatically is considered a "rant" or "diss".
> When I compare two packaging systems (two neutral pieces of software), it 
> seems to be equal to having declared WW_III. Every statement I make is 
> understood as kind of personal attack (even if I don't even mention a single 
> person).
> But Dave Miner (and I never had anything against him, I do respect him very 
> much) can question my intelligence and nobody will even notice.
> I can define at least 5 other www.opensolaris.org related aspects that I see 
> as a intentional personal insult against me.
>
> You know what: Let's destroy the conary stuff. Enjoy IPS and be Sanssouci.
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