Hi, Stephen Hahn p????e v ??t 13. 09. 2007 v 09:45 -0700: > * Milan Jurik <Milan.Jurik at sun.com> [2007-09-13 06:49]: > > Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland) p????e v ??t 13. 09. 2007 v > > 10:49 +0100: > > > > > Did anyone consider staying with SVR4 and just making the tools work > > > properly. i.e a green field site and using SVR4 build a complete > > > set of tools from ground up. > > Are we talking about the format, the set of interfaces, or the > current implementation? Are we including or excluding the patch > format, interfaces, and implementation? >
Including patch. The implementation wasn't updated for many, many, many years, do you expect it could handle new situations without updates? Mainly in cases like zones, grub or TX integration? > > Based on all already published info I saw - no in reality. SVR4 is not > > broken itself but they think that some new packaging system will solve > > their ignoring of feature delivering magically somehow, ignoring the > > flexibility of SVR4. > > "SVR4", in its current implementation of both packaging and patching, > is an unsafe, imprecise, and inadequate system. I believe the E.g. if you mean BartS blog entry about dim sum patching then I can say that I disagree. Linux distributions are able to work in their way of dim sum patching. And their space is more "unstable" than Solaris space. > implementation and interfaces are not worth repairing; I have done > maintenance programming and porting in the past, and believe my > assessment of costs is rational. > > As I've said before, we're asking the Install CG to host our > exploration, in which we invite others to participate. I am not > asking that other efforts in this area be denied, nor am I saying that > the goals of this effort are fixed for the duration. (I am resisting > scope expansion in certain directions when larger issues of > feasibility for this initial phase, however.) > And I'm not saying "forget about new packaging system", but just explaining my concerns. I tried to spread some of them already in past months, but nobody wanted to discuss. > - Stephen > Btw. I'm working in Solaris sustaining and many gatekeepers are sitting on the same floor as I. Just to explain from where my experience is comming. Best regards, Milan
