Krzys wrote:
> Totaly agree... Also when upgrading a box install shold be smart 
> enough to detect that and not ask for things like IP addresses etc. 
> Install should be smart enough to detect that on its own and then give 
> option to change settings if needed... But I totaly agree with what 
> you stated in your email.
We are working toward this as well. The questions we currently ask 
during install are mostly unnecessary and we intend to minimize and/or 
eliminate where possible any user required input for this type of thing.

sarah
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>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, James Carlson wrote:
>
>> Peter Tribble writes:
>>>>  The
>>>> sysid config stuff isn't consider a part of the core engine capability
>>>> with Caiman.  We consider the sysconfig stuff to be separate from the
>>>> core engine. system configuration is something that should be 
>>>> available
>>>> to users at all times, and the install system configuration is 
>>>> really a
>>>> special case of the general stuff.
>>>
>>> I consider this to be a mistake. Configuration is a core
>>> component of the installation process, so should be treated
>>> as such. Making it available at other times is fine.
>>
>> I don't agree.  While I agree that giving the user access to
>> configuration tools during install is a good thing (and would like to
>> see us provide *more* access to *more* tools), I strongly disagree
>> with the idea that install time should be a "special time."
>>
>> It should not be the case that there are special things that can be
>> done when the system is installed, and that cannot be done at other
>> times.  In fact, the process of setting up these bits of configuration
>> shouldn't be different.  (E.g., setting up name services.)
>>
>> That's the problem that we end up with if we say that configuration is
>> an integral part of installation.  We end up with "special" bits of
>> configuration magic there that end up being alien to the rest of the
>> system -- users end up wondering how they can get back to the point
>> where they can reenter or correct some information, and unless they
>> reinstall the system, they really can't do that, because install time
>> is special.  And that's bad.
>>
>> Instead, it makes sense to me to say that install should be able to
>> invoke configuration, but not that configuration is bolted to
>> install's hip.
>>
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