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Mark Townsley wrote:
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|> These sound okay but I would like to see "tunnels" split into two: one
|> type where there is a setup phase and sharing state between the
|> endpoints, and another where there is no shared state: an endpoint can
|> encapsulate a packet, toss it to another endpoint, and the receiving
|> endpoint will decapsulate it and do the right thing.  There are three
|> qualitatively different levels in the setup mechanism and where shared
|> state resides.
...
| So, I'm afraid this would be like trying to characterize something as
| black and white, where in reality there are shades of gray.

There are basically known variations of state; these aren't new to tunnels:

        - preshared, static
        - negotiated, hard
        - negotiated, soft

Another dimension is who is involved in state coordination:

        - third party informs both ends (dual push)
        - third party triggers one end, and that end coordinates
        with the other end (push, negotiate)
        - third party triggers one end, and the other end fetches
        state when needed (push/pull)

| What perhaps you are getting at though is whether you typically see a
| control protocol between endpoints in order to operate the tunnel, or
| whether the tunnel itself is "dynamic" in nature.

Is that covered by the above "who is involved" list?

Joe
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