From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] practical issues with using v4-mapped addresses for 
nat64
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:33:16 +0200
> I.e., when I was at the LACNIC meeting IPv4 was turned off, but unlike  
> at the last IETF meeting, there was a NAT-PT translator present. So I  
> could browse the web, connect to Jabber, send/receive email etc even  
> though the servers didn't have IPv6 addresses.

Google cache (for example, http://www.google.com/search?q=IETF and
please go to "chache" section of it) is using IPv4 address in the URL like 

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:vtraHFRvKEsJ:www.ietf.org/rfc.html+IETF&hl=ja&ct=clnk&cd=2
 

Which means you could not browse those types of URLs through NAT-PT translator.

So, as a commercial ISP, we do not think NAT-PT can be acceptable by customers.
This is the reason why we have to do dual stack (by 4-4 NAT, dual stack lite,
snat or whatever).

> However, a SIP client, Skype and BitTorrent didn't work: they  
> explicitly use IPv4 addresses, which weren't reachable. 

True. But again, please note that not only those applications 
but also many web pages like google cache are not compatible with NAT-PT.

> Obviously those clients can be upgraded, but it would be extremely useful if  
> existing IPv4 applications could work through a NAT64 translator.

True. But it is very hard or impossible I think.

It seems to me that just making those applications IPv6 compatible is 
the easiest and the least expensive way....

Best wishes,

Shin Miyakawa
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