Hi Ted:

The "scaling benefit" offered by the approach is that the set of subtending end 
system MAC addresses is summarized as the MAC address of the ARP proxy which 
overwrites the ES address in the frame. The result being that MAC tables in the 
core tend to be smaller.  The key thing is that this is a 1:N translation so 
the ARP proxy needs IP information in the frame and local ARP cache information 
in order to successfully translate the MAC address in frames addressed to 
itself to the subtending end system's MAC addresses. 

What this means is any non-IP E2E protocol (CFM, QCN etc.) is broken and how 
one would instrument and fault sectionalize this network is unclear. It looks 
like an Ethernet subnet but does not behave like one. 

Again hope this helps
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Lemon [mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:45 PM
To: David Allan I
Cc: Brian Haberman; int-area@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:40 PM, David Allan I <david.i.al...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Although the list discussion around my comments was an interesting and 
> informative one, I did not consider my concerns addressed. An L3 ARP proxy 
> driving a 1:N MAC-NAT breaks a lot of stuff. IMO that is rather fundamental 
> and more discussion would not change the facts. In that regard I cannot see 
> how my concerns can be addressed by SARP as it stands...

I realize that for the people presenting these points it is obvious why a L2 
nat is a bad idea, and I think I know at least one reason why they feel this 
way, but it would help to actually walk the working group through it rather 
than just pointing out that it is so, because I suspect that there are plenty 
of working group participants who are not experts on the topic, but would 
understand readily if the concerns were explained in more detail.

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