Hi Ron,

3c) may happen for a VPN or non-VPN case. The payload can be in non-IPv6 space. 
 Is “Outcome 3c) is not acceptable, but it extremely unlikely.” for particular 
network/usage in your mind?

Is the goal here to prove such corruption is acceptable or extreme unlikely?

Regards,
Lucy

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From: Ronald Bonica
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Subject: RE: Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-intarea-gre-ipv6

David, Lucy,

You are correct.  Maybe the following text will address the issue:

OLD>
   Because the IPv6 delivery header does not include a checksum of its
   own, it is subject to corruption.  However, even if the delivery
   header is corrupted, to likelihood of that corruption resulting in
   misdelivery of the payload is extremely low.
<OLD

NEW>
   Because the IPv6 delivery header does not include a checksum of its
   own,  the destination address in the delivery header is subject to
   corruption. If the destination address in the deliver header is corrupted,
   the following outcomes are possible:


1)      The delivery packet is dropped because the new destination address is 
unreachable

2)      The delivery packet is dropped because the new destination address is 
reachable, but that node is not configured to process GRE delivery packets from 
the ingress

3)      The delivery packet is processed by a GRE egress other than that which 
was originally specified by the GRE ingress. Processing options are:

a.       The payload packet is dropped because the payload destination is 
unreachable from the node that processed the delivery packet

b.      The payload packet is delivered to its intended destination

c.       The payload packet is erroneously delivered to a node other than its 
intended destination. The intended destination and the node to which the 
payload is actually delivered are numbered identically, but reside in different 
VPNs.

Outcomes 1), 2), 3a) and 3b) are acceptable. Outcome 3c) is not acceptable, but 
it extremely unlikely. Because IPv6 address space is so large and so sparsely 
populated, outcome 1) is by far the most probable. Therefore, the combined 
likelihood of all acceptable outcomes by far exceeds the likelihood of the one 
unacceptable outcome.

Furthermore, even if the payload is erroneously delivered to a node other than 
its intended destination, that node will discard the packet if the payload is 
also corrupted or if there are no applications waiting to consume the packet.

<NEW

                                   Ron


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Subject: RE: Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-intarea-gre-ipv6

> Also, why would you object to 3b? The packet ends up at the right node, just 
> via an unexpected route.

That assertion is based on the assumption that the payload destination address 
is worldwide unique.

There are lots of counterexamples that void the assumption, e.g., 10.0.0.0/8.

Thanks,
--David


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