On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Khaled Omar wrote:
You can read the IPv10 I-D again and all your concerns will be obvious, I
don't mind if you have already a series of new questions that will add a new
value to the discussion but the time to deploy IPv10 is an important factor.
We need consensus after understanding how IPv10 works and how it will be
deployed.
As has been stated again and again. Your proposal would have been
interesting if it was presented in 1995, or perhaps even in 2000.
Let me give you an IPv6 deployment timeline:
Standards were worked out in the mid 90-ties, afterwards operating system
vendors started working on it and "real" support started cropping up in
the early to mid 2000:nds, with a large milestone being Windows Vista in
2006, where as far as I know this was the first widely used consumer
operating system to implement this. It then took until Windows 7 timeframe
around 2010 before people started moving off of Windows XP in ernest, and
we're still seeing Windows XP in non-trivial numbers. So now in 2017 we're
seeing most operating systems have comprehensive (albeit perhaps not as
well-tested as we would like) support for IPv6, where the application
ecosystem still has a way to go. We're still working on better APIs to
handle the dual-stackedness problem.
Most likely, even if Microsoft could be convinced that IPv10 is something
they need to support, this would only happen in Windows 10. Then we have
the rest of the ecosystem with access routers, load balancers,
SAVI-functionality for BCP38 compliance in access devices, core routers
etc. Most of these will require a hardware fork-lift in order to support
your proposal, because they do not forward packets in a CPU, they forward
it in purpose-designed hardware that is a lot less flexible in what they
can do.
So even if we all united now (which won't happen) around your IPv10
proposal, it would take 5-10 years before the first devices out on the
market had support for it. Probably 5-10 years after that before support
is widely available.
IPv10 would delay and confuse deployment of something that is not IPv4.
While IPv6 is not perfect, there are now hundreds of millions of devices
on the Internet with IPv6 access. It's proven to work, it's not perfect,
but we have a decently good idea what to do to make it better.
IPv10 is only injecting FUD into where we need to go debate, which is IPv6
deployment for all.
Please stop.
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Mikael Abrahamsson email: [email protected]
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