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From: <[email protected]>
To: "tom petch" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:42 AM

Hi Tom, all,

In order to provide a full context, below some precisions:

* draft-ietf-softwire-yang DOES NOT create a new registry for
maintaining tunnel types nor changes the procedure to assign new code
points.  Such register does already exist:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/smi-numbers.xhtml#smi-numbe
rs-6.
* draft-ietf-softwire-yang creates a YANG module which **maintained by
IANA**; that is, upon assignment of a new code by IANA, the module is
updated automatically by IANA.
* draft-ietf-softwire-yang augments the interface YANG module with
aplusp specific nodes. To do so, it requires the tunnel type to be set
to aplusp.

<tp>

Med

I think that there is a little more to it than that.

There is indeed an existing tunnel type registry in the SMI Group for
use by MIB modules.

The I-D requests an addition to the tunnel type registry. I think that
all previous such requests in an RFC have come along with a MIB and then
a subset of the MIB information has been added to the related YANG
module.  Here the process is reversed and so we are implicitly updating
the MIB module (adding a new numeric value which YANG does not have - I
assume that the designated expert will assign a value).  It should work
but is a new and different process.  The IANA Considerations in this I-D
seem to neglect the need to update, the impact on, the tunnel MIB
module.  The I-D does say

'The name of the "identity" is the same as the corresponding
   enumeration in the IANAifType-MIB.  '
which is wrong - we are dealing with tunnelType not ifType here.

More widely, should we cater for a definition which is YANG only, or is
it still right to keep the MIB and YANG modules in line?  Does the
NETMOD WG have a view on this?

Is the Designated Expert for the MIB module ok to take over the
responsibility for making additions to a YANG Module?

And I think that the current reference to RFC4087 for tunnelType in IANA
needs updating.

To me, there are a number of ramifications spreading out across the IETF
and I doubt if I can see them all.

Tom Petch

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Int-area [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de tom
petch
> Envoyé : vendredi 26 octobre 2018 14:05
> À : [email protected]
> Objet : [Int-area] registering tunnel types
>
> I am not sure where tunnels have a home in the IETF but for anyone
with
> an interest in them, draft-ietf-softwire-yang, having completed IETF
> Last Call two weeks ago, has since acquired a YANG module for tunnel
> types, based on the Tunnel MIB, RFC4087, which seems not to have been
> turned into a YANG module before.
>
> I am unsure where the place to discuss such a topic is; softwires,
which
> owns the I-D containing the module, would be the place for aplusp but
> perhaps not for the others.  I have forwarded this to 6man thinking
that
> they would have an interest.
>
> The I-D has been revised five times since Last Call completed and I
have
> suggested that it needs to go back to softwires for them to agree this
> is really what they want before the I-D goes any further.
>
> Tom Petch
>
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