Hi Khaled,
Am 25.09.20 um 15:04 schrieb Khaled Omar:
>>> You don't even have running code to be able to verify that your proposal
>>> actually works (it doesn't).
>
> Do you have a running code to state this?
How should one create running code out of a flawed specification?
The following picture from your draft already shows that
it definitely cannot work, thus no code needed:
an IPv4-_only_ host by definition does NOT support IPv10
and thus CANNOT send any IPv10 tunnel packets. Same for an
IPv6-_only_ host.
IPv10 Host IPv10 Host
PC-1 PC-2
+----+ +----+
| | | |
| | | |
+----+ +----+
/ / <---------------------------------------> / /
+----+ IPv10 Header (Tunnel) +----+
(3)
IPv4-Only Host IPv6-Only Host
Do you see the contradiction here?
Roland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 2:43 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <[email protected]>
> Cc: IPv6 Operations <[email protected]>; int-area <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re:
> IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 -
> IPv10)
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2020, Khaled Omar wrote:
>
>> That’s why looking into the transitions solutions became a mandatory
>> or a peaceful solution such as IPv10 that will allow both version to
>> coexist and communicate until the full migration.
>
> No, any change now just resets the clock and postpones the transition by
> another 20 years.
>
> Meaningful support for IPv6 has been available in end-devices since the
> 2006-2008 timeframe when Windows Vista was released and around the same
> timeframe other end-user operating systems gained support as well.
>
> We're now in 2020 in a situation where basically every end user device in use
> has IPv6 support, even laggards like Smart TVs have started to gain
> IPv6 support. Printers have had IPv6 support for 10+ years.
>
> For your proposal, you have zero running code and thus zero devices
> supporting your proposal.
>
> You keep making these statements that upgrades are easy. They are not.
> Ecosystems take a long time to build. You don't even have running code to be
> able to verify that your proposal actually works (it doesn't).
>
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