Adding PALS and someone there may know.

Stewart



> On 4 Jun 2021, at 15:13, Bob Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Int-area list,
> 
> I'm looking for experience on common L2TP practice, most likely from 
> operators. I tried sending this query to the [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> list, as advised by Carlos Pignataro, but 
> apparently it no longer exists. So I think int-area is the "list of last 
> resort" for this.
> 
> The L2TP RFC says sequencing /can/ be disabled for IP data, but it doesn't 
> say SHOULD or MUST. Is it possible that some operators enable L2TP sequencing 
> for IP data? And if so, do you know why they would? Also, are you aware of 
> any other types of tunnel that might try to keep IP data packets in sequence?
> 
> My reason for asking: 
> We (in tsvwg) are working on active queue management technology. Certain AQM 
> schemes (e.g. FQ-CoDel, L4S) give lower delay to a subset of traffic. If the 
> bottleneck queue supports such an AQM and it is within an L2TP tunnel with 
> sequencing enabled, the egress would hold back all the nice low delay packets 
> until it can put them back into order with the higher delay traffic.
> 
> We intend to advise that operators MUST disable L2TP sequencing if they wish 
> to deploy these AQMs within an L2TP tunnel. So we need to know:
> Whether this will create a dilemma for any operators who need L2TP sequencing 
> of IP data for some reason;
> Or whether we even need to bother giving the advice, because no operator 
> would ever enable L2TP sequencing of IP data anyway.
> 
> Obviously, some operators already use existing technologies like Diffserv to 
> reduce delay for a subset of IP data traffic, so I assume they always disable 
> L2TP sequencing anyway. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Bob Briscoe
> 
> 
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