Hi Adrian,

Thank you for clarifying and providing relevant information (both IETF111
and Security-workshop). I did follow the draft-king-irtf-xxxx  work on
semantic routing and routing challenges in general.

Looking forward to the upcoming side meeting.

--
Uma C.



On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:44 AM Adrian Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Uma,
>
>
>
> > I just wanted to ask
>
> >  - If this is part of a series of side meetings on this broader topic?
>
> >    (I remember a couple of IETFs back one side meeting on this topic
>
> >    but couldn't find it in the github pointer).
>
>
>
> Nothing so structured as “a series”. But this is the third such meeting
> related to routing research that we have organised.
>
> The previous two were:
>
>    - https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/IETF-111
>
> Routing research challenges arising from evolving beyond and revitalizing
> the Internet
>
>    -
>    
> https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/security-workshop
>
> Evolving Routing Security in the Internet
>
> They were not much related to “addressing” so not shared on the INT Area
> list. But, the subject of this meeting includes addressing so that is why
> this email.
>
>
>
> Do we have plans for more similar meetings? No nothing at the moment, but
> never say never.
>
>
>
> > Is this effort related to what Luigi posted in this WG recently
>
> > https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto
>
> > (btw, I signed up there)
>
>
>
> Not directly related, no. Although you are right to observe that Luigi’s
> draft (
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iannone-routing-and-addressing-manifesto)
> that promotes that sign-up is asking for a venue to discuss routing
> research.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> *From:* Uma Chunduri <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 03 November 2021 01:21
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] IETF-112 Side meeting on "Service Routing and
> Addressing"
>
>
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
>
>
> Many thx for leading this side meeting with many thought provoking
> sub-topics.
>
>
>
>  I just wanted to ask
>
>                        - If this is part of a series of side meetings on
> this broader topic? ( I remember a couple of IETFs back one side meeting on
> this topic but couldn't find it in the github pointer).
>
>                        - Is this effort related to what Luigi posted in
> this WG recently -
> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto (btw, I
> signed up there)
>
>
>
>
>
> Are these two efforts related but seem independent (as service routing too
> being covered) ? Is this correct understanding?
>
>
>
> Apologies if I misunderstood this completely.
>
>
>
> I strongly support having a mailing list (though this can still be
> discussed in INT-AREA as being done now) to discuss this broader topic so
> as not to confuse further.
>
>
>
> Best!
>
> --
>
> Uma C.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:14 AM Adrian Farrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi INT Area,
>
> We'll be holding another side meeting at IETF-112 to bring important recent
> research and discussion on Internet routing to the IETF. This one also has
> an aspect of addressing, so you may be interested.
>
> The topic will be "Service Routing and Addressing"
>
> The meeting will be on Wednesday 10th November 2021 18.30-20.00 UTC and
> will
> last 90 minutes.
>
> We'll hold the meeting on WebEx
>
> https://htf-paris.my.webex.com/htf-paris.my-en/j.php?MTID=m760a9ed9560f76ad3
> 1a54a64d945ca86
>
> It will be live-streamed on YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2G5QxS9Eo
>
> An ICS file is attached.
>
> The agenda will be...
>
> 1. Moderator's Introduction
>    Adrian Farrel, Old Dog Consulting
>    5 minutes
>
> 2. The ties that un-bind: decoupling IP from web services and sockets for
> robust addressing agility at CDN-scale
>    Vasileios Giotsas, Cloudflare Inc. and Lancaster University
>    https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3452296.3472922
>    20 minutes
>
> 3. RICE: Remote Method Invocation in ICN
>    Michal Krol, City University, London
>
> https://conferences.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2018/proceedings/icn18-final9.pdf
>    20 minutes
>
> 4. Centralization of service provisioning and the impact on routing
>    Geoff Huston, Chief Scientist, APNIC
>    20 minutes
>
> 5. Open Discussion
>    20 minutes
>
> All of these details can be found on github
> https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/ietf-112
>
> We'll post slides and a recording of the meeting as they become available.
>
> See you there.
> Adrian
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