Since, in a sense, this is targetted at me to be the lab rat for this, I will read all this over carefully to see what mess I am getting myself into,   :)

Bob

On 11/10/22 07:45, Bob Hinden wrote:
Don,

Adding a procedure describing how to obtain an Ethertype for IETF work seems 
reasonable to me as well.

Bob


On Nov 10, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com> wrote:

During the INTAREA WG meeting yesterday, there was a desire expressed
to include in the rfc7042bis draft an explicit process, from the IETF
side, for applying to the IEEE Registration Authority for an Ethertype
assignment. This seems pretty reasonable. The rfc7042bis draft does
include the IESG Statement requiring IESG approval before such
applications but does not make it clear just who talks to who inside
the IETF and who actually does the clerical work to apply to the IEEE
Registration Authority for an Ethertype assignment after IESG
approval.

Thinking about this, it seems to me that you want one point person who
normally does the application process. This should be a position that
has low turnover so that the person in that position is likely to have
some experience doing this. The two possibilities that occur to me are
(1) the IETF 802.1 Liaison (currently Eric Gray) or (2) the Expert for
the IANA Informational Ethertype Registry (currently me). (I have been
through the Ethertype assignment process for an IETF protocol several
times.)

The IESG Statement (see
https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/ethertypes/)
requires IESG approval and, as I recall, the last time this happened,
after the IESG had approved, the IESG was unclear on what to do next
but their first inclination was to tell IANA to do the application to
the IEEE Registration Authority. This seems natural as IANA is who you
would think of when it comes to assignments. And IANA maintains
contact with their registry experts. While this probably doesn't
matter at a practical level, considering the liaison alternative, the
IETF does not seems to currently have a liaison to IEEE 802.1 while
the IEEE Registration Authority is not at the IEEE 802.1 or the IEEE
802 level but rather at the IEEE level .

Any comments welcome but, based on the above, I'm inclined to draft
some text based on the point person doing the clerical work of
actually applying to the IEEE Registration Authority being the IANA
Ethertype Informational Registry expert (actual Registry name "IEEE
802 Numbers"). Of course, whoever it is, they could have someone else
do it on their behalf in any particular instance but they would be
responsible to see that it gets done.

Thanks,
Donald
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