> sub-IP is in fact what the IETF, which has little understanding of  
> things below the internet layer, calls it. If we take the 
> caveat that  
> the extreme generality of the term is a demonstration of our lack of  
> competence in the area, it's probably fine.

Well said.

> personally, I see a huge difference between the thing that 
> interprets  
> ones and zeroes coming off a medium into messages that can be  
> understood (L2) and anything that uses concatenated L2 links to  
> communicate among a selection of potentially non-neighboring systems  
> (L3). Since I am actually able to distinguish them, I personally  
> prefer to do so.

That too.

Thanks - Fred
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