Since we are at it, what would the term be for that thing above IP that
makes QoS/policy/network-dynamics/-based decisions of which routing
topology to use when multiple ones are available? 

Would that be a "super-IP" layer then? 

>From the MANEMO angle, one can figure that the infrastructure is a form
of backbone area for the fringe - defined as whatever ad hoc mobile
networking takes place outside the edge of the managed Internet and with
the Internet footprint of a host; a Mobile Router can carve out a number
of Nested NEMO topologies to establish MONAMI6 overlay routes via that
backbone (see attached picture). 

Those topologies which establish the 'virtual links' to the 'backbone
area' can be used to provide a basic routing inside the nested NEMO as
well. Add to the picture a MANET-protocol based routing topology and the
"super-IP" layer has quite a lot to do, one of them being to control the
size of the MANET 'lobes', or should I say 'lollipops' since they might
hang out at the end of a 'virtual link'.

To be honest I do not like "super-IP" too much. Maybe I read too many
cartoons and now I'm afraid of confusion with planes and birds and
everything that flies above...

Pascal

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>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:46 PM
>To: Fred Baker (fred)
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Manemo] [Int-area] the layer below IP
>
>> sub-IP is in fact what the IETF, which has little understanding of
>> things below the internet layer, calls it. If we take the
>> caveat that
>> the extreme generality of the term is a demonstration of our lack of
>> competence in the area, it's probably fine.
>
>Well said.
>
>> personally, I see a huge difference between the thing that
>> interprets
>> ones and zeroes coming off a medium into messages that can be
>> understood (L2) and anything that uses concatenated L2 links to
>> communicate among a selection of potentially non-neighboring systems
>> (L3). Since I am actually able to distinguish them, I personally
>> prefer to do so.
>
>That too.
>
>Thanks - Fred
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