Am 25.06.20 um 14:48 schrieb Chris Wilson:
Quoting Christian König (2020-06-25 09:11:35)
Am 24.06.20 um 22:18 schrieb Chris Wilson:
Quoting Dave Airlie (2020-06-24 20:04:02)
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 07:19, Chris Wilson <ch...@chris-wilson.co.uk> wrote:
Quoting Dave Airlie (2020-06-23 22:01:24)
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 20:03, Chris Wilson <ch...@chris-wilson.co.uk> wrote:
Quoting Thomas Hellström (Intel) (2020-06-23 10:33:20)
Hi, Chris!
On 6/22/20 11:59 AM, Chris Wilson wrote:
In order to actually handle eviction and what not, we need to process
all the objects together under a common lock, reservation_ww_class. As
such, do a memory reservation pass after looking up the object/vma,
which then feeds into the rest of execbuf [relocation, cmdparsing,
flushing and ofc execution].
Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <ch...@chris-wilson.co.uk>
---
.../gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_execbuffer.c | 91 ++++++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
Which tree is this against? The series doesn't apply cleanly against
drm-tip?
It's continuing on from the scheduler patches, the bug fixes and the
iris-deferred-fence work. I thought throwing all of those old patches
into the pile would have been distracting.
...
+static int eb_reserve_mm(struct i915_execbuffer *eb)
+{
+ const u64 idx = eb->context->timeline->fence_context;
+ struct ww_acquire_ctx acquire;
+ struct eb_vma *ev;
+ int err;
+
+ eb->mm_fence = __dma_fence_create_proxy(0, 0);
+ if (!eb->mm_fence)
+ return -ENOMEM;
Where are the proxy fence functions defined?
In dma-fence-proxy.c ;)
The dma-fence-proxy that Christian NAKed before?
I do not have an email from Christian about dma-fence-proxy in the last
3 years it has been on the list.
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Fdri-devel%2Faeb0373d-0583-d922-3b73-93668c27d177%40amd.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7Ccb060e358d844784815708d819061868%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637286861292346372&sdata=DlHistmqPi%2BtwdcT%2FycrtRpoLGZ6xcBD%2FkPvVZcQ2YQ%3D&reserved=0
Darn, I skimmed the thread title and thought it was just about the
timelines.
I'm assuming this was about patch 8 there which to me looks like proxy
fences but maybe by threading is off reading that.
The deadlocks are easy to resolve. The fence is either signaled normally
by userspace, they create a deadlock that is rejected by checking the dag
and the fence signaled with an error (and work cancelled, error
propagated back to userspace if they kept the output fence around), or
userspace forgets entirely about the fence they were waiting on in which
case it is signaled by closing the syncobjs [sadly not in error though,
I hoping to report EPIPE] on process termination.
And exactly that concept is still a big NAK.
The kernel memory management depends on dma_fences to be signaling as
soon as they are existing.
Just imagine what Daniel's dependency patches would splat out when you
do something like this and correctly annotate the signaling code path.
Nothing at all. Forward progress of the waiter does not solely depend on
the signaler, just as in bc9c80fe01a2570a2fd78abbc492b377b5fda068.
Proxy fences, especially when they depend on userspace for signaling are
an absolutely NO-GO.
We are in full control of the signaling and are able to cancel the pending
userspace operation, move it off to one side and shutdown the HW,
whatever. We can and do do dependency analysis of the fence contexts to
avoid deadlocks, just as easily as detecting recursion.
To claim that userspace is not already able to control signaling, is a
false dichotomy. Userspace is fully able to lock the HW resources
indefinitely (even if you cap every job, one can always build a chain of
jobs to circumvent any imposed timeout, a couple of seconds timeout
becomes several months of jobs before the GPU runs out of memory and is
unable to accept any more jobs). Any ioctl that blocks while holding a HW
resource renders itself liable to a user controllable livelock, you know
this, because it is blocking the signaling of those earlier jobs.
Worrying about things that are entirely within our control and hence
avoidable, misses the point.
You are completely missing the problem here.
As you correctly pointed out that an userspace thread blocks on
something is perfectly acceptable. And that's how
bc9c80fe01a2570a2fd78abbc492b377b5fda068 works as well.
And bc9c80fe01a2570a2fd78abbc492b377b5fda068 only implements waiting so
that during CS or WAIT IOCTL we can block for the fence to appear.
What happens in your approach is that the kernel starts to wait for
userspace in its memory reclaim path. That is exactly the kind of
problem Daniels patches now point out immediately.
So while the hardware can obviously get stuck in an endless loop and
needs to be recovered, this here has the potential of a system wide
kernel deadlock which is not recoverable.
The whole approach is an absolutely clear NAK!
Regards,
Christian.
-Chris
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